Der Bringer exceeding time under WinBoard

[Gábor Szõts]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Gábor Szõts at 16 February 2004 08:18:38:

Hi,
In SzG Swiss Der Bringer exceeded time already twice, in totally drawn positions in both cases. This time problem has occurred already several times in my tournaments, so I decided to look into the problem more carefully.
This is what I found (based on the game Comet-Bringer, played yesterday):
The relevant part of winboard.debug:

8841063 second: time 1723
otim 20114
8841063 >second: c2f5
8841219

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 16 February 2004 08:32:20:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Der Bringer exceeding time under WinBoard geschrieben von: / posted by: Gábor Szõts at 16 February 2004 08:18:38:



8841063 <first : 122. ... c2f5>
Interrupting second
8841063 >second: time 1723
otim 20114
8841063 >second: c2f5
8841219 <first : tellics  sc=+2.02 dp=11 nps=382K tb=8071 pv=(c2f5 h3h5 e2d2)
8841375 <second: 12 -1 12 5356 122...Rh5 123.Re4+ Kc3 124.Re3+ Kc4  (Mat=0,50=33) >
8855266 <second: 13 -1 1401 5072756 122...Rh5 123.Re4+ Kc3 124.Re3+ Kc4 125.Be6+ Kd4 126.Rh3  (Mat=0,50=36)  (TB=3458)
GameEnds(31, White wins on time, 4)





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[Gábor Szõts]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Gábor Szõts at 16 February 2004 08:40:28:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Der Bringer exceeding time under WinBoard geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 16 February 2004 08:32:20:

>8841063 <first : 122. ... c2f5>
>Interrupting second
>8841063 >second: time 1723
>otim 20114
>8841063 >second: c2f5
>8841219 <first : tellics  sc=+2.02 dp=11 nps=382K tb=8071 pv=(c2f5 h3h5 e2d2)
>8841375 <second: 12 -1 12 5356 122...Rh5 123.Re4+ Kc3 124.Re3+ Kc4  (Mat=0,50=33) >
>8855266 <second: 13 -1 1401 5072756 122...Rh5 123.Re4+ Kc3 124.Re3+ Kc4 125.Be6+ Kd4 126.Rh3  (Mat=0,50=36)  (TB=3458)
>GameEnds(31, White wins on time, 4)
>
Thanks, Volker. I used "pre" but it seems it did not reach the goal.
Gábor

[Ed Seid]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Ed Seid at 16 February 2004 11:42:32:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Der Bringer exceeding time under WinBoard geschrieben von: / posted by: Gábor Szõts at 16 February 2004 08:18:38:

Hi,
In SzG Swiss Der Bringer exceeded time already twice, in totally drawn positions in both cases.

I've also experienced problems with Der Bringer losing on time. In particular, this occurs when using time controls with increments. I haven't studied winboard.debug but I have noticed some strange behavior. Perhaps you can try this experiment.
Both Winboard and Bringer's GUI display the time. Arrange your windows so that you can see both times. When I do this, I sometimes notice that the times reported by Winboard and Bringer get out-of-sync, usually by the amount of increment. It's my guess that Bringer has an error in the code re: whether the increment should be made before or after a move is made.
I've reported this error to Der Bringer's author, but that was a long time ago and it appears that Der Bringer isn't actively being developed.

[Gábor Szõts]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Gábor Szõts at 16 February 2004 12:43:34:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Der Bringer exceeding time under WinBoard geschrieben von: / posted by: Ed Seid at 16 February 2004 11:42:32:

Hi,
In SzG Swiss Der Bringer exceeded time already twice, in totally drawn positions in both cases.

I've also experienced problems with Der Bringer losing on time. In particular, this occurs when using time controls with increments. I haven't studied winboard.debug but I have noticed some strange behavior. Perhaps you can try this experiment.
Both Winboard and Bringer's GUI display the time. Arrange your windows so that you can see both times. When I do this, I sometimes notice that the times reported by Winboard and Bringer get out-of-sync, usually by the amount of increment. It's my guess that Bringer has an error in the code re: whether the increment should be made before or after a move is made.
I've reported this error to Der Bringer's author, but that was a long time ago and it appears that Der Bringer isn't actively being developed.

Your experience shows a possible other explanation of the problem. I will try to observe what is going on.
Recently I read in CCC Forum that Der Bringer is still under development. Unfortunately the time of the next release is unknown.

[Federico Corigliano]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Federico Corigliano at 17 February 2004 04:52:42:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Der Bringer exceeding time under WinBoard geschrieben von: / posted by: Ed Seid at 16 February 2004 11:42:32:

Hi,
In SzG Swiss Der Bringer exceeded time already twice, in totally drawn positions in both cases.

I've also experienced problems with Der Bringer losing on time. In particular, this occurs when using time controls with increments. I haven't studied winboard.debug but I have noticed some strange behavior. Perhaps you can try this experiment.
Both Winboard and Bringer's GUI display the time. Arrange your windows so that you can see both times. When I do this, I sometimes notice that the times reported by Winboard and Bringer get out-of-sync, usually by the amount of increment. It's my guess that Bringer has an error in the code re: whether the increment should be made before or after a move is made.
I've reported this error to Der Bringer's author, but that was a long time ago and it appears that Der Bringer isn't actively being developed.

I remember from a post in this forum, Der Bringer was rewrote and now the author is trying to get the strenght of last release of Der Bringer.
Federico