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by **Leen Ammeraal** » 19 Feb 2004, 20:20

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

Can someone please explain to me why Kg8 is the best move

by **Dann Corbit** » 19 Feb 2004, 20:47

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 20:47:41:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

After a fairly long search, crafty still likes Kg7, but the eval was dropping. I will try some other engines as well.
5K2/2k2P2/7R/8/8/5r1p/8/8 w - - acd 20; acn 430382107; acs 1012; bm Kg8; ce 232; id "MES.0477"; pv Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf8 Ra3 Ke7 Re3+ Kd8 Rd3+ Ke8 Re3+ Kd7 Rd3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1;

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by **Dann Corbit** » 19 Feb 2004, 21:11

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 21:11:16:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

With Ruffian, the eval is dropping like a stone. Probably, this one is just very deep. We need someone with the book to tell us what the author said about the position.
E:\programme\winboard\ruffian>ruffian -h 512M -T e:\why.epd -t 999 -p 99
Hash size 536870912
Ruffian 1.0.1
feature done=0
Loading configuration: ruffian.cfg
Warning: EGTB_HASH_SIZE changed, default=1048576, newvalue=8388608
Logfile: Thu Feb 19 11:50:02 2004
Total hash size 512M
Initializing tablebases: e:/programme/winboard/nalimov
Testing e:\why.epd, 999 seconds, extra ply 99
Testing: MES.0477 Solution: Kg8
5K2/2k2P2/7R/8/8/5r1p/8/8 w - -
Depth Time Score Best line
10--> 1.38 1.49 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kd5 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Ke4 Rf6
Rg7
11/25 1.80 ++ Kg7
11/25 1.99 1.93 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3 Kg8 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3
Rh7 Kc6 Kg7
11--> 2.82 1.93 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3 Kg8 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3
Rh7 Kc6 Kg7
12/25 3.49 ++ Kg7
12/25 3.79 3.50 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kc6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf2 Kxh3
12--> 4.01 3.50 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kc6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf2 Kxh3
13/25 4.72 -- Kg7
13/25 5.28 3.00 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rxf7 Rxf7 h2 Rf1
13--> 6.88 3.00 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rxf7 Rxf7 h2 Rf1
14/28 7.72 ++ Kg7
14/28 9.03 3.76 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4
14--> 10.16 3.76 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4
15/31 12.15 3.56 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd5
15--> 17.14 3.56 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd5
16/31 18.49 -- Kg7
16/31 20.35 3.04 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kg3 Kc6 Kxh3 Kd6 Kg4 Rg1+
16--> 30.51 3.04 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kg3 Kc6 Kxh3 Kd6 Kg4 Rg1+
17/36 33.45 -- Kg7
17/36 38.04 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kd5 Rf3 Rh6+ Kc7 Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg7
17--> 59.02 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kd5 Rf3 Rh6+ Kc7 Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg7
18/36 1:07 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kd6 Rf3 Ke7 Re3+ Kf8 Rd3 Rh6+ Kc7 Kg8 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg7
18--> 1:36 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+
Kd6 Rf3 Ke7 Re3+ Kf8 Rd3 Rh6+ Kc7 Kg8 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg7
19/37 1:46 -- Kg7
19/37 1:53 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh6 Rf3 Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg7
19--> 2:32 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh6 Rf3 Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg7
20/40 2:58 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh6 Rf3 Kg6 Rg3+ Kf5 Rf3+
Ke6 Re3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7
20--> 3:40 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh6 Rf3 Kg6 Rg3+ Kf5 Rf3+
Ke6 Re3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7
21/42 4:15 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg8 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Kg7
21--> 5:37 1.99 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Kg6 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3
Kg8 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Kg7
22/44 6:51 -- Kg7
22/44 8:34 1.44 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kd5 Rf3
Rh7 Kb6 Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3
22--> 15:20 1.44 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+
Kf8 Rd3 Rh5 Kc7 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kd5 Rf3
Rh7 Kb6 Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3
23... 15:20 1/16 Kg7
Time: 16:39, cpu 69.49%, nodes 377997649, nps 378330
Hash: 256M, used 98%, hits 41%
EGTB: probs 288396, hits 288396
Best move: Kg7 (1.44) Not solved (0/1)
Summery: 0/1

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by **Dann Corbit** » 19 Feb 2004, 22:16

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 22:16:04:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

Delfi solves it in less than one second, but the score is not terribly convincing...

Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 12:56:03 PM Level: 999 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Delfi-430
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Delfi-430): Kf8-g8
identical moves! Found in: 00:01
2 00:00 0.32 f8e7 f3e3 h6e6
3 00:00 0.50 f8e7 f3e3 h6e6 e3xe6 e7xe6
4 00:00 0.27 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5
5 00:00 0.27 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3d3 d5e5
5 00:00 0.29 h6h8 c7c6 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6
6 00:00 0.21 h6h8 c7d7 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 h3h2 h8d8 d7c7 f7f8q h2xh1q
6 00:00 0.61 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6c6 c7d7
7 00:00 0.60 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6c6 c7d7 c6d6 d7e7
8 00:00 0.64 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h7g7
9 00:00 0.48 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e4 f3f2
10 00:00 0.57 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e4 f3f2 h7g7
11 00:01 0.79 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7d8 d5e4 f3f2 e4e3 f2f1
11 00:01 0.94 f8g8..
11 00:02 1.80 f8g8! f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6
12 00:03 1.80 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4xh3
13 00:05 1.80 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3
14 00:08 1.80 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3
15 00:17 1.73 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4xh3 b6c6 h3g4 c6d6
16 00:53 1.77 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4xh3 b6c6 h3g4 c6d6 g4g5
17 02:19 1.76 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4xh3 b6c6 h3h4 c6d5 h4h5 d5d6
18 03:39 1.75 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4xh3 b6c6 h3h4 c6d6 h4g5 d6e7 g5g6
19 07:37 1.71 f8g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4xh3 b6c6 h3g2 f1f5 g2g3 c6d6 g3g4 f5f1
2/19/2004 1:12:45 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 00:01
1 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 1:12:46 PM, Total time: 12:16:43 AM
Rated time: 00:01 = 1 Seconds

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by **Dann Corbit** » 19 Feb 2004, 22:37

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 22:37:36:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

Aristarch likes Kg7:

Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: 999 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Aristarch 4.41
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Aristarch 4.41): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
2- 00:01 -0.42 Rh6xh3 Rf3xh3
2 00:01 -3.39 Rh6xh3 Rf3xh3
2+ 00:01 -3.38 Rh6h4 Rf3xf7+ Kf8xf7
2+ 00:01 -3.18 Rh6h4 Rf3xf7+ Kf8xf7
2 00:01 -0.24 Rh6h4 Kc7d7
2+ 00:01 -0.23 Rh6h5 Kc7d7
2 00:01 -0.07 Rh6h5 Kc7d7
2+ 00:01 -0.06 Kf8g7 h3h2
2+ 00:01 0.14 Kf8g7 h3h2
2 00:01 2.07 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6
3- 00:01 1.65 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6 h3h2 f7f8Q
3 00:01 1.98 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
4 00:01 2.22 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q
5- 00:01 1.80 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q
5 00:01 1.00 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q
5+ 00:01 1.01 Rh6h5 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3f3
5+ 00:01 1.21 Rh6h5 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3f3
5 00:01 1.78 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
6- 00:01 1.36 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
6 00:01 0.99 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h6 Kd7e7 Rh5g5
6+ 00:01 1.00 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8a3
6 00:01 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g7
6+ 00:01 1.20 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8d6+ Kc7c8
6 00:01 1.35 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8f4+ Kc7c8 Qf4d6
7 00:01 1.35 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8d6+ Kc7c8 Qd6d7+ Kc8b8 Ke6d6
8 00:01 1.19 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h6
8+ 00:01 1.20 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+ Rh7g7 Rg3xg7+ Kg8xg7 h3h2 f7f8Q+ Kd6c7
8+ 00:01 1.40 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+ Rh7g7 Rg3xg7+ Kg8xg7 h3h2 f7f8Q+ Kd6c7
8 00:01 1.59 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7
9 00:01 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f6 Re3f3+
10 00:02 1.20 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8d6+ Kc7b7 Qd6b4+ Kb7c8 Qb4c4+ Kc8d8 Qc4d3+ Kd8e8
Qd3d7+ Ke8f8
10+ 00:02 1.21 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7e6 Rd4e4+ Ke6d7 Re4e7+ Kd7d8 Re7e2 Rf3g3 Re2d2+ Kd8c8 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 h3h2 Rd2xh2 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Kc8b8
11 00:07 1.35 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7c8 Rd4e4 h3h2 Re4h4 Rf3f2 Rh4h5 Kc8d7 Kf8g7 Rf2g2+ Kg7f6 Rg2f2+ Kf6g7
12 00:10 1.35 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7c8 Kf8g7
12+ 00:10 1.36 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7d6 Re3d3+ Kd6e6 Rd3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 K
g4xh3
12+ 00:10 1.56 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
12 00:11 2.65 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13 00:12 2.56 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5
14 00:16 2.61 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Rh7g7
15 00:23 2.53 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4g3 Kb6c5 Rh7g7 Kc5d4
16 00:54 2.61 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8
17 01:28 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8
18 02:29 2.55 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8
19 05:10 2.55 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8
20 12:13 2.48 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 f7f8Q Rf3xf8 Rh6xh3 Rf8e8 Rh3e3 Re8xe3 Kh7g8
2/19/2004 1:30:32 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 16:39
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 1:30:33 PM, Total time: 12:16:42 AM
Rated time: 16:39 = 999 Seconds

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by **Peter Fendrich** » 19 Feb 2004, 23:16

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 19 February 2004 23:16:58:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 22:37:36:

In the PV after f7f8Q this is a dead draw position.
Aristarch score is very wrong.
/Peter

by **Peter Fendrich** » 19 Feb 2004, 23:23

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 19 February 2004 23:23:07:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 22:16:04:

In the PV after g4xh3 this is a dead draw.
/Peter

by **Peter Fendrich** » 19 Feb 2004, 23:32

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 19 February 2004 23:32:55:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 21:11:16:

The last move in the pv ror iter 22 means draw.
Ruffian just moved around and didn't achieve anything.
For instance after the first Rf3+ he moves Ke7 and in the last Rf3+ he moves Kg4 from the same position.
/Peter

by **Peter Fendrich** » 19 Feb 2004, 23:38

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 19 February 2004 23:38:50:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 19 February 2004 20:47:41:

Crafty just moved around the king without achieving anything. The h-pawn can't be captured here.
/Peter

by **Peter Fendrich** » 19 Feb 2004, 23:45

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 19 February 2004 23:45:49:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

I suppose that the originasl idea here (like many of the chess engines followed)is to get the rook to h7 forcing the bK to b6 and then walking up with the wK and capture the h-pawn. It looks to me that this draw anyway.
Maybe there is something else in this position?
One thing that makes me think I could be wrong is the bm Kh8. What I said can be done equally with Kg7.
/Peter

by **Telmo Escobar** » 20 Feb 2004, 00:35

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Telmo Escobar at 20 February 2004 00:35:58:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

The endgame is one by Redgezinsky, although the author believed wrongly it is a win for White. Actually it's a draw, according to Chekhover:

1.Kg7 Rg3+ 2.Kh8 Rf3 3.Rh7 Kb6 [3...Kd6 4.Kg8 Rg3+ 5.Rg7+-;
3...Kc6 4.Kg8 Rg3+ 5.Rg7 Rxg7+ 6.Kxg7 h2 7.f8Q h1Q 8.Qa8++-] 4.Kg8 Rg3+ 5.Kf8 Rc3! [5...Kc6 6.Ke7 Re3+ 7.Kf6 Rf3+ 8.Kg7 Rg3+ 9.Kh8 Rf3 10.Kg8 Rg3+ 11.Rg7 Rxg7+ 12.Kxg7 h2 13.f8Q h1Q 14.Qa8++-;
5...Kc5 6.Rh8 Kd6 7.Ke8 Re3+ 8.Kd8+-;
5...Kc7 6.Ke7 Re3+ 7.Kf6 Rf3+ 8.Ke6 Re3+ 9.Kd5+- ;
5...Ra3=] 6.Rh8 [6.Rh6+ Kb5 7.Rf6 h2 8.Rf1 Rf3=] 6...Rc8+ 7.Kg7 Rxh8 8.Kxh8 h2=
{from the Encyclopedia of Chess Endings, third volume}
1.Kg8 is no better than 1.Kg7, after 1.Kg8 Rg3+ 2.Kh8 it's in fact the same the same game.

by **Dann Corbit** » 20 Feb 2004, 01:51

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 20 February 2004 01:51:25:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Telmo Escobar at 20 February 2004 00:35:58:

Here is the analysis of several engines (only one of which has a score close to drawish). Notice also that Rebel's analysis is broken (it analyzed the starting position of a chess game instead -- apparently setboard does not work).
Dragon likes Rh4 with a score of about +1.25 pawns, and Quark sees less than a pawn advantage.

Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: 999 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Aristarch 4.41
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Aristarch 4.41): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
2- 00:01 -0.42 Rh6xh3 Rf3xh3
2 00:01 -3.39 Rh6xh3 Rf3xh3
2+ 00:01 -3.38 Rh6h4 Rf3xf7+ Kf8xf7
2+ 00:01 -3.18 Rh6h4 Rf3xf7+ Kf8xf7
2 00:01 -0.24 Rh6h4 Kc7d7
2+ 00:01 -0.23 Rh6h5 Kc7d7
2 00:01 -0.07 Rh6h5 Kc7d7
2+ 00:01 -0.06 Kf8g7 h3h2
2+ 00:01 0.14 Kf8g7 h3h2
2 00:01 2.07 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6
3- 00:01 1.65 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6 h3h2 f7f8Q
3 00:01 1.98 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
4 00:01 2.22 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q
5- 00:01 1.80 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q
5 00:01 1.00 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q
5+ 00:01 1.01 Rh6h5 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3f3
5+ 00:01 1.21 Rh6h5 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3f3
5 00:01 1.78 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
6- 00:01 1.36 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
6 00:01 0.99 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h6 Kd7e7 Rh5g5
6+ 00:01 1.00 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8a3
6 00:01 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g7
6+ 00:01 1.20 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8d6+ Kc7c8
6 00:01 1.35 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8f4+ Kc7c8 Qf4d6
7 00:01 1.35 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8d6+ Kc7c8 Qd6d7+ Kc8b8 Ke6d6
8 00:01 1.19 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h6
8+ 00:01 1.20 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+ Rh7g7 Rg3xg7+ Kg8xg7 h3h2 f7f8Q+ Kd6c7
8+ 00:01 1.40 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+ Rh7g7 Rg3xg7+ Kg8xg7 h3h2 f7f8Q+ Kd6c7
8 00:01 1.59 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7
9 00:01 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f6 Re3f3+
10 00:02 1.20 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8d6+ Kc7b7 Qd6b4+ Kb7c8 Qb4c4+ Kc8d8 Qc4d3+ Kd8e8 Qd3d7+ Ke8f8
10+ 00:02 1.21 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7e6 Rd4e4+ Ke6d7 Re4e7+ Kd7d8 Re7e2 Rf3g3 Re2d2+ Kd8c8 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 h3h2 Rd2xh2 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Kc8b8
11 00:07 1.35 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7c8 Rd4e4 h3h2 Re4h4 Rf3f2 Rh4h5 Kc8d7 Kf8g7 Rf2g2+ Kg7f6 Rg2f2+ Kf6g7
12 00:10 1.35 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7c8 Kf8g7
12+ 00:10 1.36 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7d6 Re3d3+ Kd6e6 Rd3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
12+ 00:10 1.56 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
12 00:11 2.65 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13 00:12 2.56 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5
14 00:16 2.61 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Rh7g7
15 00:23 2.53 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4g3 Kb6c5 Rh7g7 Kc5d4
16 00:54 2.61 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8
17 01:28 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8
18 02:29 2.55 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8
19 05:10 2.55 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8
20 12:13 2.48 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 f7f8Q Rf3xf8 Rh6xh3 Rf8e8 Rh3e3 Re8xe3 Kh7g8
2/19/2004 1:30:32 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 16:39
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 1:30:33 PM, Total time: 12:16:42 AM
Rated time: 16:39 = 999 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: DeepSjeng
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (DeepSjeng): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
2 00:00 0.41 Rh6h7 Kc7d6
2 00:00 0.46 Rh6h5 Kc7d6
2 00:00 0.47 Rh6h4 Kc7d6
2 00:00 0.76 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6
2 00:00 0.85 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6
3+ 00:00 1.35 Kf8g7
3 00:00 1.74 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6 h3h2
4- 00:00 1.24 Kf8g7
4 00:00 0.91 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+
5 00:00 0.91 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+
6 00:00 0.91 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5e6
7 00:00 0.77 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6
8 00:01 1.11 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4
9 00:01 1.35 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kd5e4 Rf3f1
10 00:03 1.23 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f1 Rh7g7
11 00:05 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3f1 Rh7h6 Kb6a5
11 00:08 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3f1 Rh7h6 Kb6a5 Rh6h8
12 00:13 1.36 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Kb6a6 Kg6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6
13 00:23 1.50 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4g3 Kb6a5
14 00:43 1.57 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4g3 Kb6c5 Kg3xh3
15- 02:05 1.07 Kf8g7
15 03:28 1.24 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Kd5e4 Rf3f1 Rh7g7 h3h2 f7f8Q Rf1xf8 Rg7h7
16 08:24 0.95 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6a5 Kh3g4 Rf1g1+ Kg4f5 Rg1f1+ Kf5e4
2/19/2004 1:47:25 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 33:18
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 1:47:26 PM, Total time: 12:33:36 AM
Rated time: 33:18 = 1998 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Dragon_45
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Dragon_45): Rh6-h4
Not found in: 16:39

Temps restant : 0 secondes Temps limite : 1000000 secondes Temps limite absolu : 1000000 secondes
8 00:01 1.48 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7
9- 00:01 1.08 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7f8
9 00:01 0.64 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6c6+ Kc7d7
10 00:03 1.00 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6
10+ 00:03 1.04 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7c6 Rd4d2 h3h2 Rd2xh2 Rf3g3
10 00:05 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3e3 Kf8g7 Re3g3+ Kg7h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g6 h3h2 Rh4xh2 Rf3c3
11 00:11 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+
12 00:17 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+
13 00:29 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+
14 01:01 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g8
15 02:22 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g8
16 06:17 1.28 Rh6h4 Rf3g3 Kf8e7 Rg3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8f8
2/19/2004 2:04:12 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 49:57
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 2:04:13 PM, Total time: 12:50:23 AM
Rated time: 49:57 = 2997 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Gothmog
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Gothmog): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
2 00:00 1.07 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6
3 00:00 1.34 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3
4 00:00 1.18 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5
5 00:00 1.23 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3d3+ Kd5e5
6- 00:00 1.21 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3
6- 00:00 1.20 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3
6 00:00 1.18 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6c6+ Kc7d7
7- 00:00 1.17 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6c6+ Kc7d7
7- 00:00 1.10 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6c6+ Kc7d7
7+ 00:00 1.09 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3
7 00:00 1.10 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3
8+ 00:00 1.10 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
8+ 00:00 1.12 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
8- 00:00 1.17 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
8- 00:00 1.15 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
8 00:00 1.12 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
9+ 00:00 1.12 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
9+ 00:00 1.14 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
9+ 00:00 1.20 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
9+ 00:00 1.34 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
9+ 00:00 1.59 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
9- 00:01 1.96 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9- 00:01 1.95 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9- 00:01 1.87 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9- 00:01 1.79 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9+ 00:01 1.65 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9+ 00:01 1.67 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9- 00:01 1.71 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9- 00:01 1.70 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9+ 00:01 1.68 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9 00:01 1.68 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
10+ 00:01 1.70 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8
10+ 00:01 1.73 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8
10+ 00:01 1.79 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8
10+ 00:01 1.93 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g8
10- 00:02 2.17 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6
10- 00:02 2.15 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6
10- 00:02 2.12 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6
10- 00:02 2.04 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6
10 00:02 1.93 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6
11+ 00:03 1.93 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4
11+ 00:03 1.95 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4
11+ 00:03 2.01 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4
11+ 00:03 2.15 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4
11- 00:04 2.39 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
11- 00:04 2.35 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
11- 00:04 2.32 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
11+ 00:04 2.26 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
11+ 00:04 2.28 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
11 00:04 2.31 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
12 00:07 2.31 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13+ 00:08 2.31 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13+ 00:09 2.32 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13- 00:12 2.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13- 00:12 2.35 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13 00:12 2.34 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
14+ 00:13 2.34 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Rh7xh3 Rf2xf7 Kg4g5
14+ 00:14 2.35 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Rh7xh3 Rf2xf7 Kg4g5
14+ 00:16 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Rh7xh3 Rf2xf7 Kg4g5 Rf7e7
14- 00:41 2.54 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Rh7h8 Rd3f3+ Kf5g5 Kb6c6
14- 00:43 2.53 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Rh7h8 Rd3f3+ Kf5g5 Kb6c6
14- 00:44 2.50 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Rh7h8 Rd3f3+ Kf5g5 Kb6c6
14 00:46 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Rh7h8 Rd3f3+ Kf5g5 Kb6c6
15+ 00:48 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Kf5e4 Rd3d8 Rh7xh3 Kb6b5 Rh3f3
15+ 00:51 2.43 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Kf5e4 Rd3d8 Rh7xh3 Kb6b5 Rh3f3
15- 01:05 2.48 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Kf5e4 Rd3d8 Rh7xh3 Kb6b5 Rh3f3
15- 01:06 2.46 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3d3 Kf5e4 Rd3d8 Rh7xh3 Kb6b5 Rh3f3
15 01:58 2.43 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Kf5e4 Ra3a4+ Ke4e5 Ra4a5+ Ke5e6 Ra5a7 Rh7xh3 Ra7a8 Rh3h2
16- 03:00 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Kf5e4 Ra3a8 Rh7xh3 Ra8f8 Rh3f3
16 03:04 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Kf5e6 Ra3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3a3
17+ 03:10 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5e6 h3h2 Rh8xh2 Kb6b7 Rh2h1
17 04:50 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5e6 h3h2 Rh8xh2 Kb6b7 Rh2h1 Kb7c6
18+ 05:12 2.42 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5e6 h3h2 Rh8xh2 Kb6b7 Rh2h1 Kb7c6
18+ 06:22 2.43 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5g6
18- 12:11 2.48 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5g6
18- 14:28 2.46 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f6 h3h2 f7f8Q Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f7
18+ 15:01 2.45 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f6 h3h2 f7f8Q Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f7
18 15:20 2.46 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f6 h3h2 f7f8Q Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f7
19+ 15:50 2.46 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3a3 Rh7h8 Ra3f3+ Kf5g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f6 h3h2 f7f8Q Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f7
2/19/2004 2:21:00 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 01:06:36
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 2:21:00 PM, Total time: 1:07:10 AM
Rated time: 01:06:36 = 3996 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Kke
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Kke): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
7 00:00 0.84 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg8 Rg3+ Rg7 Rxg7+ Kxg7
8 00:01 0.46 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+ Kd6 Rf3
8 00:01 0.47 [+=] Rh8 Kd8
8 00:02 0.46 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+ Kd6 Rf3
9 00:04 0.52 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+ Kd6 Rf3 Ke6 Re3+ Kd5 Rf3
10 00:08 2.05 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4
11 00:16 2.02 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg2 Rf6 Kg3
12 00:46 1.96 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd5 Rh5+ Ke4 Rh7
13 01:27 1.96 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd5 Rg7 Ke4 Rh7
14 04:07 1.96 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg2 Rf6 Kg3 Kd5 Kg4 Kd4
15 05:08 1.88 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kh2 Rf3 Kh1 Rf4 Kg1 Kd4 Kg2
2/19/2004 2:37:46 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 01:23:15
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 2:37:47 PM, Total time: 1:23:57 AM
Rated time: 01:23:15 = 4995 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Ktulu
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Ktulu): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
6 00:04 1.14 Kg7 !!
6 00:09 2.96 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kd6 Kg7 Np:8761
7 00:09 3.34 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Kg8 Rg3+ Kh7 Rf3 Kg7 Np:18461
9 00:10 3.04 Kg7 --
9 00:11 1.04 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kd5 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Ke4 Rf1 Np:17572
10 00:14 1.34 Kg7 !!
10 00:14 1.04 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Np:43801
11 00:15 1.34 Kg7 !!
11 00:15 2.61 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Np:73172
12 00:15 2.91 Kg7 !!
12 00:16 2.61 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke7 Re3+ Kd7 Rd3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Np:97413
13 00:17 2.41 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Np:136158
14 00:19 2.71 Kg7 !!
14 00:20 2.71 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Np:196089
15 00:24 2.53 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd4 Np:250399
16 00:34 2.56 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd4 Rg7 Np:317649
17 00:44 2.26 Kg7 --
17 00:50 2.16 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd4 Kg5 Ke5 Np:369234
18 04:07 2.46 Kg7 !!
18 04:13 2.23 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf6 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd4 Kg5 Ke5 Rg7 Np:44528
19 05:09 2.53 Kg7 !!
19 05:22 2.43 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf2 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg3 Rf1 Kg2 Rf6 Kg3 Kd4 Np:130284
20 07:42 2.16 Kg7 Rg3+ Kh8 Rf3 Rh7 Kb6 Kg7 Rg3+ Kf6 Rf3+ Ke6 Re3+ Kf5 Rf3+ Kg4 Rf1 Kxh3 Kc5 Kg4 Kd4 Kg5 Ke3 Rh3+ Ke4 Kg6 Rf2 Np:36410
2/19/2004 2:54:33 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 01:39:54
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 2:54:34 PM, Total time: 1:40:44 AM
Rated time: 01:39:54 = 5994 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: List512
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (List512): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
5 00:00 1.19 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q
5 00:00 0.75 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5
5 00:00 1.15 Rh6h4 Rf3e3 Rh4c4+ Kc7b6 Kf8g7 Re3g3+ Kg7f6
5 00:00 1.37 Rh6h4 Kc7d6 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
5 00:00 1.47 Rh6h8 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
6 00:01 1.07 Rh6h8 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e5 Rf3xf7
6 00:01 0.70 Rh6h8 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Kd7e7
6 00:01 0.74 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h6 Kd7e7 Rh4f4
6 00:01 1.14 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8g7+ Kc7b6
6 00:01 1.55 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6 h3h2 f7f8Q h2h1Q Qf8g7+ Kc7b6
7 00:01 1.59 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Rh6g6
8 00:01 1.19 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Rh6g6
8 00:01 0.75 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5 Rg3f3+ Kf5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6e6
8 00:01 0.87 Rh6e6 h3h2 Re6h6 Rf3f2 Rh6h8 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Kd7e7 Rh8e8+ Ke7d6 Re8h8 Kd6c5
8 00:01 1.27 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 h3h2 f7f8Q+ Kc7b6 Qf8xf3 Kb6a5
8 00:01 1.55 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7
9 00:01 1.15 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e5
9 00:01 1.04 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6
10 00:01 1.15 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
11 00:01 1.55 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
11 00:02 2.72 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Kb6c5 Rh7h5+ Kc5d4 Rh5xh3
12 00:02 2.71 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 h3h2 Kf5g4
13 00:04 2.80 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
14 00:08 2.70 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
15 00:16 2.70 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
16 00:30 2.72 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
17 01:37 2.67 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
18 03:01 2.70 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
19 11:34 2.65 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4
2/19/2004 3:11:20 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 01:56:33
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 3:11:21 PM, Total time: 1:57:31 AM
Rated time: 01:56:33 = 6993 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Patzer 3.61
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Patzer 3.61): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
2 00:00 3.32 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+
2 00:00 3.35 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+
3 00:00 3.35 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8
4- 00:00 0.78 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+
4 00:00 0.67 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3
4 00:00 2.54 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7
5 00:00 2.56 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7
6- 00:00 0.90 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+
6 00:01 2.57 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g7
7- 00:01 2.15 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+
7+ 00:02 2.17 Kf8g8
8 00:02 2.17 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7
9- 00:03 1.42 Kf8g8 Rf3g3+
9 00:07 1.43 Kf8g8
9+ 00:07 1.84 Rh6e6
10- 00:08 1.42 Rh6e6 Rf3f1
10 00:13 1.64 Rh6h4 Kc7d7 Rh4d4+ Kd7c7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+
11- 00:15 1.29 Rh6h4 Kc7d7
11 00:19 1.39 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g7
11+ 00:19 2.10 Kf8g8
11+ 00:19 2.25 Kf8g7
12 00:20 3.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+
13 00:23 3.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7d6
14 00:26 3.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7d6 Re3d3+
15- 00:34 3.03 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+
15 00:45 2.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+
16 01:08 2.31 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f8 Kb6c6
17 01:30 2.39 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+
18 01:38 2.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3
19 02:52 2.37 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3
20 03:22 2.39 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Kd5d6 Rf3d3+ Kd6e5
21 07:19 2.57 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g5 h3h2 Rh7h6+ Kb6c7 Kg5g6
22 09:02 2.57 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g5 h3h2 Rh7h6+ Kb6c7 Kg5g6
2/19/2004 3:28:13 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 02:13:12
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 3:28:14 PM, Total time: 2:14:23 AM
Rated time: 02:13:12 = 7992 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Quark-232-net
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Quark-232-net): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
8 00:01 0.61 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e5 TBHits:129
9 00:01 0.70 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e6 f3e3 TBHits:180
9 00:02 0.70 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e6 f3e3 TBHits:331
10 00:02 0.61 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e6 f3e3 e6f6 e3f3 TBHits:413
10 00:03 0.61 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7b6 d5e6 f3e3 e6f6 e3f3 TBHits:722
11 00:04 0.70 f8e7 f3e3 e7f6 e3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6d5 e3f3 h6h7 c7d8 d5e6 f3e3 e6f5 d8e7 f5f4 TBHits:872
11 00:07 0.71 f8g7! TBHits:1595
11 00:07 1.83 f8g7!! TBHits:1605
11 00:07 2.41 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f2 TBHits:1630
11 00:07 2.41 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f2 TBHits:1660
12 00:08 2.41 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f2 g4h3 TBHits:2040
12 00:10 2.41 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f2 g4h3 TBHits:2363
13 00:12 2.31 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4h3 b6c5 TBHits:2901
13 00:16 2.31 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4h3 b6c5 TBHits:4084
14 00:19 2.41 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f2 g4g3 f2f1 g3h3 TBHits:5152
14 00:27 2.41 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f2 g4g3 f2f1 g3h3 TBHits:7567
15 00:32 2.30 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4g3 b6c5 h7g7 h3h2 g3h3 TBHits:9485
15 00:46 2.30 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6g6 f3g3 g6f5 g3f3 f5g4 f3f1 g4g3 b6c5 h7g7 h3h2 g3h3 TBHits:14268
16 00:53 2.00 f8g7? TBHits:16547
16 00:55 1.00 f8g7?? TBHits:17136
16 01:10 0.82 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7f8 e3d3 h7h6 b6a5 h6h5 a5b4 f8g7 d3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 TBHits:21984
16 03:30 0.82 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7f8 e3d3 h7h6 b6a5 h6h5 a5b4 f8g7 d3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 TBHits:87684
17 03:46 0.82 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7f8 e3d3 h7h5 b6c7 f8g8 d3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h8g7 f3g3 TBHits:95421
17 07:33 0.83 f8g8! TBHits:227827
17 07:44 0.82 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7f8 e3d3 h7h5 b6c7 f8g8 d3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h8g7 f3g3 TBHits:234563
17 07:59 0.82 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7f8 e3d3 h7h5 b6c7 f8g8 d3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h8g7 f3g3 TBHits:241084
18 08:51 0.85 f8g7 f3g3 g7h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f8 g3c3 h7h4 c3d3 f8g7 d3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e6 f3e3 e6f5 e3f3 f5g6 f3g3 g6h7 g3f3 h4h6 b6c7 h7g6 f3g3 TBHits:270367
2/19/2004 3:45:07 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 02:29:51
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 3:45:08 PM, Total time: 2:31:17 AM
Rated time: 02:29:51 = 8991 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Rebel12_CB
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Rebel12_CB): Kf8-c5
Not found in: 16:39
2 00:00 0.08 e2e4 e7e5
3 00:00 0.16 e2e4 d7d5 b1c3
3 00:00 0.18 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3
4 00:00 0.09 d2d4 d7d5 e2e3 c8d7
5 00:00 0.20 d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 b8c6 b1c3
5 00:00 0.22 e2e4 g8f6 e4e5 f6e4 d2d4
6 00:00 0.13 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 d7d5 f3e5
7 00:00 0.21 e2e4 b8c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8d7 g1e2
8 00:01 0.20 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 e5d4 f3d4 c6d4 d1d4 g8f6
9 00:01 0.22 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 e5d4 f3d4 f8b4 b1c3 c6d4 d1d4
10 00:02 0.19 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 d2d4 f8b4 c1g5 d7d6
11 00:07 0.19 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 f3e5 d7d6 e5f3 f6e4 d2d3 e4f6 c1g5
12 00:15 0.13 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 f3e5 d7d6 e5c4 f6e4 b1c3 c8f5 c3e4 f5e4 d2d4
12 00:21 0.14 d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 c8f5 e2e3 b8d7 c1d2 c7c6 f1e2
13 00:47 0.12 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 c8f5 c1g5 g8f6 e2e3 e7e6
13 01:08 0.21 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 f3e5 d7d6 e5f3 f6e4 d2d3 e4f6 b1c3
14 01:50 0.16 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 f1c4 f8c5 d2d3 d7d6 e1g1
15 06:18 0.25 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 f1c4 f8c5 f3g5
16 12:11 0.14 e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4
2/19/2004 4:01:54 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 02:46:30
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 4:01:55 PM, Total time: 2:48:05 AM
Rated time: 02:46:30 = 9990 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Ruffian 1.0.5
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Ruffian 1.0.5): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
2 00:00 2.01 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6
3 00:00 1.99 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e7
4 00:00 1.05 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Kc7d8
4 00:00 1.99 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g7
5 00:00 1.13 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g6 Kc7d7
5 00:00 1.25 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g7
6 00:00 0.35 Rh6h5 Kc7d7 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Kd7e7
6 00:00 1.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d6 Kh8g7
7 00:00 1.99 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Kh8g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g7
8 00:00 1.94 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e7
9 00:00 1.75 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kd5e4 Rf3f6
10 00:00 1.49 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kd5e4 Rf3f6 Rh7g7
11 00:00 1.93 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7
12+ 00:01 2.28 Kf8g7
12 00:01 3.50 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
13- 00:01 3.15 Kf8g7
13 00:02 3.00 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3xf7 Rh7xf7 h3h2 Rf7f1
14+ 00:03 3.35 Kf8g7
14 00:04 3.76 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g4
15 00:06 3.56 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g4 Kc5d5
16- 00:09 3.21 Kf8g7
16 00:11 3.19 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Rh7h6 Rf6xh6 f7f8Q Rh6h7
17 00:20 3.26 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f6 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g4 Kc5d6 Kg4g5 Kd6e5
18 00:35 3.02 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Kh3g2 Rf1f5 Kg2g3 Kc6d6 Kg3g4
19 01:08 3.30 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Kh3g2 Rf1f5 Kg2g3 Kc6d6 Kg3g4 Kd6e5
20 02:08 3.03 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Kh3g2 Rf1f5 Kg2g3 Kc6d6 Kg3g4 Rf5f2 Kg4g5 Kd6e7
21 04:47 2.92 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Kh3g2 Rf1f5 Kg2g3 Kc6d6 Kg3g4 Rf5f1 Rh7g7 Kd6e7
22 12:19 2.74 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c6 Kh3g2 Rf1f5 Kg2g3 Kc6d6 Kg3g4 Rf5f1 Kg4g5 Kd6e6 Kg5g6
2/19/2004 4:18:41 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 03:03:09
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 4:18:42 PM, Total time: 3:04:52 AM
Rated time: 03:03:09 = 10989 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Smarthink-017a
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Smarthink-017a): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39
6 00:08 2.66 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7
6 00:09 3.01 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7
7 00:11 3.00 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8d8
7 00:13 3.00 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
8 00:19 2.99 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8f8
8 00:20 2.85 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
9 00:24 2.85 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8f8
9 00:24 2.85 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
10 00:30 2.85 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7c8 d3f3 c8d8
10 00:30 2.85 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7c8 d3f3
11 00:45 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7c8 d3c3 c8d8
11 00:47 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7c8 d3c3
12 01:10 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e6 d3e3 e6f5
12 01:10 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e6 d3e3
13 01:51 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8f8
13 01:51 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
14 02:52 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8f8
14 02:52 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
15 04:57 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8f8
15 04:57 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
16 11:35 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3 e8f8
16 11:35 2.84 f8g7 f3g3 g7h7 g3f3 h7g8 f3g3 g8h8 g3f3 h6h7 c7b6 h8g7 f3g3 g7f6 g3f3 f6e7 f3e3 e7d7 e3d3 d7e8 d3e3
2/19/2004 4:35:28 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 03:19:48
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 4:35:29 PM, Total time: 3:21:39 AM
Rated time: 03:19:48 = 11988 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Thinker

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by **Dann Corbit** » 20 Feb 2004, 02:47

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 20 February 2004 02:47:17:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Telmo Escobar at 20 February 2004 00:35:58:

Two more analysis routines. Thinker fails to work and Yace gives a high score.

Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Thinker
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Thinker): Kf8-g7
Not found in: 16:39

2/19/2004 4:52:15 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 03:36:27
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 4:52:17 PM, Total time: 3:38:27 AM
Rated time: 03:36:27 = 12987 Seconds
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Analysis from e:\why.epd
2/19/2004 1:13:50 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Yace
1) Kg8; ce 232; id "MES
Searching move: Kf8-g8
Best move (Yace): Kf8-e7
Not found in: 16:39
2 00:00 0.27 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6
2+ 00:00 0.28 Kf8g7 Rf3c3
2 00:00 0.29 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6
3 00:00 0.64 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6
3 00:00 0.84 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Rh6e6 Re3xe6+ Ke7xe6
4 00:00 0.64 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g7 Rf3g3+ Rh6g6 Rg3xg6+ Kg7xg6
5 00:00 0.27 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7
6 00:00 0.25 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Rf3f5+ Kd5e6
7 00:00 0.24 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5d6
8 00:00 0.41 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kd5e4 Rf3f2
9 00:00 0.24 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d5 Re3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kd5e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d6 Re3d3+ Kd6e6
9+ 00:00 0.25 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7d8 Kh8g8 Rf3e3 f7f8Q+ Re3e8
9 00:00 0.25 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h6 Rg3f3 Kh6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6f5
10 00:01 0.33 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6d6 Re3f3
11+ 00:01 0.73 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Kb6c5 f7f8Q+ Kc5d4
11 00:02 1.63 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3
12 00:04 1.49 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f2 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5
13 00:07 1.54 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g4
14 00:17 1.49 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g2 Rf1f6
15 00:36 1.47 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Rh7g7 Kc5d5 Kh3g4 Kd5e4
16 01:12 1.47 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g2 Rf1f6 Kg2g3 Kc5d4 Kg3g4
17 02:45 1.46 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g2 Rf1f6 Kg2g3 Kc5d4 Kg3g4 Kd4e4
18- 04:02 1.06 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5 Kh3g2 Rf1f6 Rh7h5+ Kc5d4 f7f8Q Rf6xf8 Rh5c5
18 05:09 1.06 Kf8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3f3+ Kf5g4 Rf3f1 Kg4xh3 Kb6c5
18+ 06:39 1.07 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7c8 Kh8g7 h3h2 f7f8Q+ Kc8c7
18 09:05 1.46 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 Kh7g8 Rf3g3+ Kg8h8 Rg3f3 Rh6h7 Kc7b6 Kh8g7 Rf3g3+ Kg7f6 Rg3f3+ Kf6e6 Rf3e3+ Ke6f5 Re3g3 Rh7h6+ Rg3g6
19 11:38 1.46 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 f7f8Q
19 15:40 1.46 Kf8e7 Rf3e3+ Ke7f6 Re3f3+ Kf6g6 Rf3g3+ Kg6h7 Rg3f3 f7f8Q Rf3xf8 Rh6xh3
2/19/2004 5:09:07 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:16:39, Rated time: 03:53:06
0 of 1 matching moves
2/19/2004 5:09:08 PM, Total time: 3:55:18 AM
Rated time: 03:53:06 = 13986 Seconds

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by **Leen Ammeraal** » 20 Feb 2004, 06:54

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 20 February 2004 06:54:58:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

Thanks to all who dealt with this problem.
I am no longer disappointed with my engine not
finding Kg8, which apparently is not really
the 'best move'.
Leen

by **Kurt Utzinger** » 20 Feb 2004, 07:33

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Kurt Utzinger at 20 February 2004 07:33:25:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Please explain this rook endgame to me geschrieben von: / posted by: Leen Ammeraal at 19 February 2004 20:20:30:

White to move (draw)
 abcdefgh  8         8  7        7  6         6  5          5  4          4  3        3  2          2  1          1  abcdefgh ChessDiag V1.01 (12-OCT-2002)5K2/2k2P2/7R/8/8/5r1p/8/8 w - - 0 1
I see no difference between 1.Kg7 and 1.Kg8 as in my opinion
this position is anyway a draw.
Kurt

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