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about Kaissa

Postby Vladimir Yelin » 26 Oct 2003, 15:29

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Vladimir Yelin at 26 October 2003 15:29:46:

Hello dear computer chess funs!
Kaissa 1.7 (private version) available now on mail elvladimir@yandex.ru (sorry, but one-two days latency, I'm very busy).
Kaissa 1.8 (stronger about 80-100 points then version 1.7) will be available only for big computer chess site.
Best.
Vladimir.
Vladimir Yelin
 

Re: about Kaissa

Postby Michael Yee » 26 Oct 2003, 20:59

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Michael Yee at 26 October 2003 20:59:51:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: about Kaissa geschrieben von: / posted by: Vladimir Yelin at 26 October 2003 15:29:46:
Kaissa 1.8 (stronger about 80-100 points then version 1.7) will be available only for big computer chess site.
Hi Vladimir,
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Do you mean that...
(a) Kaissa 1.8 will become commericial and be sold online,
(b) it will be available to certain well-known testers (e.g., WBEC)
Thanks,
Michael
Michael Yee
 

Re: about Kaissa

Postby Vladimir Yelin » 26 Oct 2003, 21:07

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Vladimir Yelin at 26 October 2003 21:07:01:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: about Kaissa geschrieben von: / posted by: Michael Yee at 26 October 2003 20:59:51:
Kaissa 1.8 (stronger about 80-100 points then version 1.7) will be available only for big computer chess site.
Hi Vladimir,
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Do you mean that...
(a) Kaissa 1.8 will become commericial and be sold online,
(b) it will be available to certain well-known testers (e.g., WBEC)
Thanks,
Michael
Hi Michael, 1.8 will be available for well-known testers.
Now I haven't time for commercial project, maybe later.
Best.
Vladimir.
Vladimir Yelin
 

Thanks! (n/t)

Postby Michael Yee » 26 Oct 2003, 21:13

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Michael Yee at 26 October 2003 21:13:11:
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Michael Yee
 

Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ?

Postby Vladimir Medvedev » 27 Oct 2003, 09:25

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Vladimir Medvedev at 27 October 2003 09:25:50:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: about Kaissa geschrieben von: / posted by: Vladimir Yelin at 26 October 2003 15:29:46:

Hello, Vladimir!
What is correct name? Kaissa-2 or Kaissa?
I have asked Alexander Bitman and Vladimir Arlazarov, authors of legendary "Kaissa" of 70s. They told me nothing about transmitting rights for this name to you.
Regards,
Vladimir.
Vladimir Medvedev
 

Re: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ?

Postby Günther Simon » 27 Oct 2003, 10:22

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Günther Simon at 27 October 2003 10:22:03:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ? geschrieben von: / posted by: Vladimir Medvedev at 27 October 2003 09:25:50:
Hello, Vladimir!
What is correct name? Kaissa-2 or Kaissa?
I have asked Alexander Bitman and Vladimir Arlazarov, authors of legendary "Kaissa" of 70s. They told me nothing about transmitting rights for this name to you.
Regards,
Vladimir.
What about 'Caissa' in case of copyright problems?
(I think this is the original writing of the godness)
Regards,
Günther
Günther Simon
 

Re: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ?

Postby Vladimir Medvedev » 27 Oct 2003, 10:51

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Vladimir Medvedev at 27 October 2003 10:51:10:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ? geschrieben von: / posted by: Günther Simon at 27 October 2003 10:22:03:

What about 'Caissa' in case of copyright problems?
(I think this is the original writing of the godness)
First, I don't think any serious [K,C]opyright problems really arise here. But in early 90-ths Russian software company "Disco" has PC version of Kaissa (genetic successor to mainframe version, but re-written in TurboC).
AFAIK, Vladimir Yelin declared some continuity in original Kaissa ideas (described in some books by Arlazarov, Bitman et al.), and he wants to emphasize this continuity by naming his engine Kaissa-2.
The question is, what is correct name - Kaissa-2 or Kaissa ?
BTW, there exist some plans to run original (mainframe!) Kaissa on emulator of M-20 or ICL machine. Source code (in binary processor commands) is still available, and some work is going in this direction... Guess what will be the name of such a program? :))
Vladimir Medvedev
 

Re: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ?

Postby Vladimir Yelin » 27 Oct 2003, 11:44

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Vladimir Yelin at 27 October 2003 11:44:28:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ? geschrieben von: / posted by: Vladimir Medvedev at 27 October 2003 09:25:50:
Hello, Vladimir!
What is correct name? Kaissa-2 or Kaissa?
I have asked Alexander Bitman and Vladimir Arlazarov, authors of legendary "Kaissa" of 70s. They told me nothing about transmitting rights for this name to you.
Regards,
Vladimir.
Hi Vladimir!
Now correct name Kaissa. My project not commercial now, so I not ask about
transmitting rights. If I decide made commercial project I change name of
course.
Best.
Vladimir.
Vladimir Yelin
 

Re: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ?

Postby Vladimir Medvedev » 27 Oct 2003, 12:25

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Vladimir Medvedev at 27 October 2003 12:25:39:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: Kaissa or Kaissa-2 ? geschrieben von: / posted by: Vladimir Yelin at 27 October 2003 11:44:28:

Thank you, now all is clear, no questions anymore.
:)
I'll rename the entry in my Winboard.ini :))
Now correct name Kaissa. My project not commercial now, so I not ask about
transmitting rights. If I decide made commercial project I change name of
course.
Best.
Vladimir.
Vladimir Medvedev
 


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