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by **Leo Dijksman** » 29 Mar 2004, 18:23

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 29 March 2004 19:23:45:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

by **Uri Blass** » 29 Mar 2004, 18:51

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 29 March 2004 19:51:32:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 29 March 2004 19:23:45:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

Thanks
It can be productive if you can send me the logfile of movei00.8.195 to see
what is the problem.
Movei by default runs with log on.
I hope that you can also delay movei games.
The name of the logfile of movei is 194 because I forgot to change it to 195 and it should include all the games and the analysis of movei during the games.
Uri

by **Sune Fischer** » 29 Mar 2004, 18:54

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Sune Fischer at 29 March 2004 19:54:29:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 29 March 2004 19:23:45:

Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

Hi Leo
The problem is reproducable, it seems to lose about every other game on time.
Only happens with ponder on, still haven't found the cause.
-S.

by **Uri Blass** » 29 Mar 2004, 19:23

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 29 March 2004 20:23:36:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 29 March 2004 19:51:32:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.
Thanks
It can be productive if you can send me the logfile of movei00.8.195 to see
what is the problem.
Movei by default runs with log on.
I hope that you can also delay movei games.
The name of the logfile of movei is 194 because I forgot to change it to 195 and it should include all the games and the analysis of movei during the games.
Uri

To be more correct the name of the logfile is
moveloginfo194.log and it should be in the exe file of movei
Uri

by **Uri Blass** » 29 Mar 2004, 19:25

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 29 March 2004 20:25:26:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 29 March 2004 20:23:36:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.
Thanks
It can be productive if you can send me the logfile of movei00.8.195 to see
what is the problem.
Movei by default runs with log on.
I hope that you can also delay movei games.
The name of the logfile of movei is 194 because I forgot to change it to 195 and it should include all the games and the analysis of movei during the games.
Uri
To be more correct the name of the logfile is
moveloginfo194.log and it should be in the exe file of movei

I mean in the folder of the exe file of movei.
I could not reproduce the bug by playing without the logfile.
Uri

by **Peter Fendrich** » 29 Mar 2004, 21:48

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 29 March 2004 22:48:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 29 March 2004 19:23:45:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

I downloaded the games and found a lot "Movei adjudication" with movei
both losing and winning.
What does that mean?
I don't think that any program is allowed to resign on behalf of the other engine, whatever the position on the board is.
/Peter

by **Uri Blass** » 29 Mar 2004, 21:57

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 29 March 2004 22:57:50:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 29 March 2004 22:48:42:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

I downloaded the games and found a lot "Movei adjudication" with movei
both losing and winning.
What does that mean?
I don't think that any program is allowed to resign on behalf of the other engine, whatever the position on the board is.
/Peter

I guess that Leo changed the default adjudicate value of movei
I believe that with the default value it cannot adjudicate games.
Leo can answer better based on the values in
movei_ini_details.ini
The default values are
20 9999999 1 s
if you change the 9999999 to something smaller than movei may adjudicate games based on the score.
Uri
Uri

by **Leo Dijksman** » 30 Mar 2004, 16:33

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 30 March 2004 17:33:27:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 29 March 2004 22:48:42:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

I downloaded the games and found a lot "Movei adjudication" with movei
both losing and winning.
What does that mean?
I don't think that any program is allowed to resign on behalf of the other engine, whatever the position on the board is.
/Peter

It means that Movei adjudicate for both sides

I agree, and thats why I never used it, I tested it now at this test tourney for the first time.
Since I adjudicate the games of engines without resign option automattically it can happen for both sides also in games with "no resign" engines playing at!
I use it because I dont see a good reason for allowing "no resign" engines playing on for 20 moves or more when the most (by far) have a resign option.
(was not used at the test tourney!)
Best wishes,
Leo.

WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

by **Uri Blass** » 30 Mar 2004, 17:33

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 30 March 2004 18:33:30:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk 2nd division test finished. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 30 March 2004 17:33:27:

WBEC7 2nd Division Test
ATHLON-MP2200, 2004.03.28 - 2004.03.29
Score G P A B A T M C S C U A T K T R F S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Gothmog 0.4.7 13.0 / 17 X 1 = = 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 1 = 1
2: Phalanx XXII 11.5 / 17 0 X 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 = 1 0 1 1 1 1
3: Amy 0.8.7 11.0 / 17 = 0 X 1 0 1 1 1 0 = = = 1 1 1 1 = =
4: Betsy 6.51 11.0 / 17 = 1 0 X 1 = 0 0 = 1 1 1 1 1 0 = 1 1
5: Amateur 2.80 10.5 / 17 1 0 1 0 X 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 = 1 1
6: The Baron 1.3.0b2 10.5 / 17 0 1 0 = 1 X = 0 = 1 0 = 1 = 1 1 1 1
7: Movei 0.08.194 9.0 / 17 1 0 0 1 1 = X 0 = 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 = =
8: Cerebro 1.24 9.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 0 1 = 0 = 0 1 1
9: SlowChess 2.89b 9.0 / 17 0 0 1 = 0 = = 0 X 1 1 = 0 1 1 1 = =
10: Chezzz 1.0.3 8.0 / 17 0 1 = 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 0 1 1 = 1 0 1 1
11: Ufim 4.04 7.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 X 0 0 1 0 1 0 1
12: Arasan 7.4 7.5 / 17 = = = 0 0 = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 = 1 1 =
13: Terra 3.3b10 7.5 / 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = 1 0 1 1 X 1 1 1 0 1
14: KnightDreamer 3.2 7.0 / 17 0 1 0 0 1 = 1 1 0 = 0 0 0 X 0 = 1 =
15: The CrazyBishop 0050 7.0 / 17 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 = 0 0 1 = 0 1 X 0 1 1
16: Resp 0.19 5.5 / 17 0 0 0 = = 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 = 1 X 0 1
17: Frenzee 155 5.0 / 17 = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 X 0
18: Scidlet 3.6 3.5 / 17 0 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 = 0 = 0 0 1 X
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
153 games: +70 =31 -52
Movei 0.08.194 replaced by Movei 0.08.195 after round 4.
Problems found:
Lost on time:
Frenzee = 3x, "hanging" after one of them.
Movei0.08.195 = 1x in a hopeless position (mate in 7 or so)
Betsy = 1x
LGpgnver:
No problems!!
The games can be download from the 2nd division page!
Amy 0.8.7 will start with ponder=on.
Frenzee will probably start a few days later.
Best wishes and GoodLuck to all!
Leo.

I downloaded the games and found a lot "Movei adjudication" with movei
both losing and winning.
What does that mean?
I don't think that any program is allowed to resign on behalf of the other engine, whatever the position on the board is.
It means that Movei adjudicate for both sides
I agree, and thats why I never used it, I tested it now at this test tourney for the first time.
Since I adjudicate the games of engines without resign option automattically it can happen for both sides also in games with "no resign" engines playing at!
I use it because I dont see a good reason for allowing "no resign" engines playing on for 20 moves or more when the most (by far) have a resign option.
(was not used at the test tourney!)
Best wishes,
Leo.

2 questions:
1)What is the reason that adjudicating games automatically was not used in the test.
2)How do you adjudicate games automatically?
No problem with it but the question if it is impossible to have wrong adjudication of some fortress position when the better side cannot win.
Uri

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