SzG Swiss 3rd division started playing

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 17:40:01:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor



my chess page

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 18:23:42:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: SzG Swiss 3rd division started playing geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 17:40:01:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor

Bringer 1.9 - Terra 3.3B11 1-0
Djinn 0.871 - Tao 5.6 remis
Phalanx XXII - Scidlet 3.6 remis
Betsy 2.51 - Capture R2 0-1
List 512 - Frenzee 151 1-0
KnightX 1.83 - SlowChess 2.93 remis
Movei 00.8.208 - Chispa 4.032b 1-0
Beowulf 2.3 - Arasan 7.4 1-0
Patzer 3.61 - DanChess 1.04d-beta remis
Fruit X 05/05 - Nejmet 3.07 remis
Ufim 4.04 - Jonny 2.62 1-0
Patriot 1.0.5a - The Crazy Bishop 1-0

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 15 May 2004 18:43:15:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Sorry, I forgot: here are the results geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 18:23:42:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor

Bringer 1.9 - Terra 3.3B11 1-0
Djinn 0.871 - Tao 5.6 remis
Phalanx XXII - Scidlet 3.6 remis
Betsy 2.51 - Capture R2 0-1
List 512 - Frenzee 151 1-0
KnightX 1.83 - SlowChess 2.93 remis
Movei 00.8.208 - Chispa 4.032b 1-0
Beowulf 2.3 - Arasan 7.4 1-0
Patzer 3.61 - DanChess 1.04d-beta remis
Fruit X 05/05 - Nejmet 3.07 remis
Ufim 4.04 - Jonny 2.62 1-0
Patriot 1.0.5a - The Crazy Bishop 1-0

The pgn that I downloaded includes also more results (probably from round 2):
Movei-Bringer 0-1
Capture-Ufim 0-1
Uri

[Tom Likens]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Tom Likens at 15 May 2004 19:54:37:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Sorry, I forgot: here are the results geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 18:23:42:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor

Bringer 1.9 - Terra 3.3B11 1-0
Djinn 0.871 - Tao 5.6 remis
Phalanx XXII - Scidlet 3.6 remis
Betsy 2.51 - Capture R2 0-1
List 512 - Frenzee 151 1-0
KnightX 1.83 - SlowChess 2.93 remis
Movei 00.8.208 - Chispa 4.032b 1-0
Beowulf 2.3 - Arasan 7.4 1-0
Patzer 3.61 - DanChess 1.04d-beta remis
Fruit X 05/05 - Nejmet 3.07 remis
Ufim 4.04 - Jonny 2.62 1-0
Patriot 1.0.5a - The Crazy Bishop 1-0

Man, this is "rarefied" air. I think the new version of Djinn is stronger,
but we shall see.
regards,
--tom

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 20:13:21:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Sorry, I forgot: here are the results geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 15 May 2004 18:43:15:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor

Bringer 1.9 - Terra 3.3B11 1-0
Djinn 0.871 - Tao 5.6 remis
Phalanx XXII - Scidlet 3.6 remis
Betsy 2.51 - Capture R2 0-1
List 512 - Frenzee 151 1-0
KnightX 1.83 - SlowChess 2.93 remis
Movei 00.8.208 - Chispa 4.032b 1-0
Beowulf 2.3 - Arasan 7.4 1-0
Patzer 3.61 - DanChess 1.04d-beta remis
Fruit X 05/05 - Nejmet 3.07 remis
Ufim 4.04 - Jonny 2.62 1-0
Patriot 1.0.5a - The Crazy Bishop 1-0

The pgn that I downloaded includes also more results (probably from round 2):
Movei-Bringer 0-1
Capture-Ufim 0-1
Uri

Yes, they are from round two. Alsp from this round:
Beowulf-List remis
Tao-Patriot remis
These two games are not included in the PGN yet.
Gábor

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 16 May 2004 10:23:17:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: Sorry, I forgot: here are the results geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 20:13:21:

Tao-Patriot 0-1
In fact I posted the result prematurely, while the game was still running. It looked so drawish...
Two more results:
DanChess-Phalanx 0-1
SlowChess-Djinn remis
Gábor

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 16 May 2004 14:35:00:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: CORRECTION! geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 16 May 2004 10:23:17:

Tao-Patriot 0-1
In fact I posted the result prematurely, while the game was still running. It looked so drawish...
Two more results:
DanChess-Phalanx 0-1
SlowChess-Djinn remis
Gábor

Very good results for Djinn.
It drew against 2 programs that are significantly stronger than movei when
Tao is in the premier division of Leo when Slowchess beated aristarch that is also in the premier division.
Uri

[Tom Likens]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Tom Likens at 16 May 2004 16:28:41:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: CORRECTION! geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 16 May 2004 14:35:00:

Tao-Patriot 0-1
In fact I posted the result prematurely, while the game was still running. It looked so drawish...
Two more results:
DanChess-Phalanx 0-1
SlowChess-Djinn remis
Gábor

Very good results for Djinn.
It drew against 2 programs that are significantly stronger than movei when
Tao is in the premier division of Leo when Slowchess beated aristarch that is also in the premier division.
Uri

Hello Uri,
I *do* think this version of the engine is stronger than the version that
played in Leo's tournament. That said, this is a *tough* crowd and I'm
guessing Djinn's luck will run out soon, the other programs are just too
good- Movei included.
As a data point or two, my tests (100 game matches, run on an AMD Athlon
1800+, TC 15+3) indicate that Djinn is about 75 elo points weaker than
Phalanx XXII and roughly 110 elo below Amy 0.8.2. I know this is slightly
odd since Phanlanx is currently leading Amy in Leo's WBEC tournament, but
different engines match up in slightly different ways (which of course makes
it all the more interesting).
Almost all of my efforts lately have been spent on forward-pruning
techniques) more of Tord's "bad" influence I'm afraid , and the
results have been promising. I'm still not quite ready to release it into
the wild yet, but hopefully soon after a few more modifications and ICC
trials-by-fire. Djinn is *still* getting whipped by Amateur too often to
suit me (although Will doesn't seem to mind).
regards,
--tom

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 16 May 2004 16:49:11:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: CORRECTION! geschrieben von:/posted by: Tom Likens at 16 May 2004 16:28:41:

Tao-Patriot 0-1
In fact I posted the result prematurely, while the game was still running. It looked so drawish...
Two more results:
DanChess-Phalanx 0-1
SlowChess-Djinn remis
Gábor

Very good results for Djinn.
It drew against 2 programs that are significantly stronger than movei when
Tao is in the premier division of Leo when Slowchess beated aristarch that is also in the premier division.
Uri

Hello Uri,
I *do* think this version of the engine is stronger than the version that
played in Leo's tournament. That said, this is a *tough* crowd and I'm
guessing Djinn's luck will run out soon, the other programs are just too
good- Movei included.
As a data point or two, my tests (100 game matches, run on an AMD Athlon
1800+, TC 15+3) indicate that Djinn is about 75 elo points weaker than
Phalanx XXII and roughly 110 elo below Amy 0.8.2. I know this is slightly
odd since Phanlanx is currently leading Amy in Leo's WBEC tournament, but
different engines match up in slightly different ways (which of course makes
it all the more interesting).
Almost all of my efforts lately have been spent on forward-pruning
techniques) more of Tord's "bad" influence I'm afraid , and the
results have been promising. I'm still not quite ready to release it into
the wild yet, but hopefully soon after a few more modifications and ICC
trials-by-fire. Djinn is *still* getting whipped by Amateur too often to
suit me (although Will doesn't seem to mind).
regards,
--tom

I think that the difference between Amy and Phalanx in Leo tournament is not significant and 35 elo difference is also not a lot.

Remember also that Amy0.8.7 plays in Leo tournament and it is possible that Amy0.8.2 is better because new bugs were added to 0.8.2.
Uri

[Peter Fendrich]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Peter Fendrich at 16 May 2004 22:10:23:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: SzG Swiss 3rd division started playing geschrieben von:/posted by: Gábor Szots at 15 May 2004 17:40:01:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor

Such an awful play by Terra!
....
/Peter


Terra

[Gábor Szots]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Gábor Szots at 17 May 2004 07:47:03:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: SzG Swiss 3rd division started playing geschrieben von:/posted by: Peter Fendrich at 16 May 2004 22:10:23:

Hi all,
One round has been completed. Two newcomers, Fruit and DanChess struggled but achieved a draw. The third, Jonny, however, was torn into pieces. The fourth, Patriot played a very interesting game and overcame TCB in the end.
You can find the games on my web page.
Gábor

Such an awful play by Terra!
....
/Peter

This is only one game. I made Terra play some blitz games which made it look really promising.
Gábor