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WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

Postby Leo Dijksman » 22 May 2004, 15:19

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 22 May 2004 16:19:21:

Premier Division:
Round 16:
Quark 2.35 Paderborn ½111 3.5/4 = need 1 point vs Goliath!
GreenLightChess 3.00 ½000 0.5/4 = GLC in big problems now! (needs 2,5 point vs Ruffian)
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LittleGoliath 3.9po 0111 3.0/4 = need 1 point vs Quark!
Nejmet 3.07 1000 1.0/4 = Finished but not save yet!?
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Round 17:
Amyan 1.593b 0101 2.0/4 = "Little" Amyan is safe Antonio!!
Zarkov 4.67 1010 2.0/4 = Almost "qualified" to play the promo/relegation tourney!(only a 4-0 between Quark and Goliath "can" save it)
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2nd Division:
Round 16:
Frenzee 146 101½ 2.5/4
Resp 0.19 010½ 1.5/4
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Round 17:
Amateur 2.80 1½01 2.5/4
Resp 0.19 0½10 1.5/4 = relegated to the 3rd Division :-(
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Amy 0.8.7 1100 2.0/4
SlowChess 2.89b 0011 2.0/4
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Crosstables and pgn on the WBEC homepage.
Enginelist, latest updates/new engines:
22/05/2004:
New engine: Amundsen v0.3 from Sweden (Linux/XBoard (WB version by Dann Corbit))
Best wishes,
Leo.


WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.
Leo Dijksman
 

Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

Postby Will Singleton » 22 May 2004, 17:33

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Will Singleton at 22 May 2004 18:33:20:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 22 May 2004 16:19:21:
Premier Division:
Round 16:
Quark 2.35 Paderborn ½111 3.5/4 = need 1 point vs Goliath!
GreenLightChess 3.00 ½000 0.5/4 = GLC in big problems now! (needs 2,5 point vs Ruffian)
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LittleGoliath 3.9po 0111 3.0/4 = need 1 point vs Quark!
Nejmet 3.07 1000 1.0/4 = Finished but not save yet!?
------------------------------------
Round 17:
Amyan 1.593b 0101 2.0/4 = "Little" Amyan is safe Antonio!!
Zarkov 4.67 1010 2.0/4 = Almost "qualified" to play the promo/relegation tourney!(only a 4-0 between Quark and Goliath "can" save it)
------------------------------------

2nd Division:
Round 16:
Frenzee 146 101½ 2.5/4
Resp 0.19 010½ 1.5/4
------------------------------------
Round 17:
Amateur 2.80 1½01 2.5/4
Resp 0.19 0½10 1.5/4 = relegated to the 3rd Division :-(
------------------------------------
Amy 0.8.7 1100 2.0/4
SlowChess 2.89b 0011 2.0/4
------------------------------------

Crosstables and pgn on the WBEC homepage.
Enginelist, latest updates/new engines:
22/05/2004:
New engine: Amundsen v0.3 from Sweden (Linux/XBoard (WB version by Dann Corbit))
Best wishes,
Leo.
The battle is now for the 4th spot, after Slow, Phalanx and Movei. Either Baron or Gothmog, with Goth having the edge.
I'm surprised that Phalanx and Scidlet did so well. Scidlet hadn't been on my radar at all before this. Those two knocked Amateur out of the running.
Thanks for the tournament, Leo.
Will Singleton
 

Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

Postby Uri Blass » 22 May 2004, 18:01

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 22 May 2004 19:01:20:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Will Singleton at 22 May 2004 18:33:20:
Premier Division:
Round 16:
Quark 2.35 Paderborn ½111 3.5/4 = need 1 point vs Goliath!
GreenLightChess 3.00 ½000 0.5/4 = GLC in big problems now! (needs 2,5 point vs Ruffian)
------------------------------------
LittleGoliath 3.9po 0111 3.0/4 = need 1 point vs Quark!
Nejmet 3.07 1000 1.0/4 = Finished but not save yet!?
------------------------------------
Round 17:
Amyan 1.593b 0101 2.0/4 = "Little" Amyan is safe Antonio!!
Zarkov 4.67 1010 2.0/4 = Almost "qualified" to play the promo/relegation tourney!(only a 4-0 between Quark and Goliath "can" save it)
------------------------------------

2nd Division:
Round 16:
Frenzee 146 101½ 2.5/4
Resp 0.19 010½ 1.5/4
------------------------------------
Round 17:
Amateur 2.80 1½01 2.5/4
Resp 0.19 0½10 1.5/4 = relegated to the 3rd Division :-(
------------------------------------
Amy 0.8.7 1100 2.0/4
SlowChess 2.89b 0011 2.0/4
------------------------------------
The battle is now for the 4th spot, after Slow, Phalanx and Movei. Either Baron or Gothmog, with Goth having the edge.
I do not think that movei can be sure of places 2-4 and even phalanx has small chances not to qualify.
Uri
Uri Blass
 

Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

Postby Antonio Dieguez » 23 May 2004, 02:58

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Antonio Dieguez at 23 May 2004 03:58:04:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 22 May 2004 16:19:21:
Premier Division:
Round 16:
Quark 2.35 Paderborn ½111 3.5/4 = need 1 point vs Goliath!
GreenLightChess 3.00 ½000 0.5/4 = GLC in big problems now! (needs 2,5 point vs Ruffian)
------------------------------------
LittleGoliath 3.9po 0111 3.0/4 = need 1 point vs Quark!
Nejmet 3.07 1000 1.0/4 = Finished but not save yet!?
------------------------------------
Round 17:
Amyan 1.593b 0101 2.0/4 = "Little" Amyan is safe Antonio!!
hi!
very good perfomance.. :)
now delete it, i never release anymore and amyan 1.593b remains a myth..:)
btw, my email zodiamoon@yah... is very bad because spam and viruses, it gets full everyday, in any case i also have a.dieguez at uandresbello.edu.
Antonio Dieguez
 

Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

Postby Uri Blass » 23 May 2004, 11:26

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 23 May 2004 12:26:19:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Antonio Dieguez at 23 May 2004 03:58:04:
Premier Division:
Round 16:
Quark 2.35 Paderborn ½111 3.5/4 = need 1 point vs Goliath!
GreenLightChess 3.00 ½000 0.5/4 = GLC in big problems now! (needs 2,5 point vs Ruffian)
------------------------------------
LittleGoliath 3.9po 0111 3.0/4 = need 1 point vs Quark!
Nejmet 3.07 1000 1.0/4 = Finished but not save yet!?
------------------------------------
Round 17:
Amyan 1.593b 0101 2.0/4 = "Little" Amyan is safe Antonio!!
hi!
very good perfomance.. :)
now delete it, i never release anymore and amyan 1.593b remains a myth..:)
btw, my email zodiamoon@yah... is very bad because spam and viruses, it gets full everyday, in any case i also have a.dieguez at uandresbello.edu.

For comparison result of previous Amyan:
ATHLON-MP2200
1)http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/his4thedition.html
Amyan1.59 scored worse than knightdreamer and almost go down to a lower division.
Amyan is place 15 and place 16 go down.
Amyan1.59 38.5/84
Knightdreamer3.2 41.5/84
gap of 3/84 for knightdreamer.

2)Amyan1.59(same amyan) scores 38/68
Knightdreamer3.2(same knightdreamer scores 23.5/68
gap of 14.5/68 for Amyan.
Hardware Mp-2400 almost the same.
What is the reason for the difference in the result:
possible explanations:
explanation1:Luck(but I think that the probability for that big difference to happen is small even if we assume constant probabilities of 1/3 for loss,draw,win)
You can try to run tournament when the result of every game is win,draw,loss with probability 1/3 when tournament 1 has 84 games and the tournament 2 has 68 games.
Now let A1 be the result of program a in tournament 1.
Let B1 be the result of program b in tournament 1.
A2 and B2 are defined in the same way for tournament 2.
Now you can calculate (A1-B1)/84 for the first tournament and (B2-A2)/68 for the second tournament
I wonder in how many cases you will get S=(A1-B1)/84+(B2-A2)/68>3/84+14.5/68
We have nearly
A1~N(0,sqrt(14))(some of independent 84 varaibles with varaiety 1/6 has varaiety 84/6).
B1~N(0,sqrt(14))
(A1-B1)~N(0,sqrt(28))
(B2-A2)~N(0,sqrt(68/3)
S~N(0,sqrt(28/(84*84)+(68/3)/(68*68)))
I get that the result is different by more than 2.5 standard deviation from the expected result by luck and the probability for it to happen is very small.

In the real case part of the programs are stronger and part of the programs are weaker and the colour also have influence on the result so the varaince is smaller relative to the varaince in case that you have 1/3 probability for everything.

Explanation 2:Amyan had a better book in the second tournament.
Explanation 3:Amyan has learning that helped it to learn better lines for the second tournament.
Uri
Uri Blass
 


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