broken link in heinz nunn match page.

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 16:28:19:

The link to top position number 12 is broken
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntopp12.htm
Uri

[Thomas Mayer]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Thomas Mayer at 26 July 2004 16:33:01:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: broken link in heinz nunn match page. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 16:28:19:

Hi Uri,

The link to top position number 12 is broken
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntopp12.htm

looks like a misspelling. Try this one:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntop12.htm
sometimes common sense helps a bit to guess links...
Greets, Thomas

[Heinz van Kempen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 26 July 2004 16:33:08:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: broken link in heinz nunn match page. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 16:28:19:

The link to top position number 12 is broken
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntopp12.htm
Uri

Hello Uri,
this will corrected and I will upload some positions more in about three hours.
For the moment we are having a lot of discussions in private mail group AEGT.
List is really a difficult problem.
A bit of patience please.
Best Regards
Heinz

[Heinz van Kempen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 26 July 2004 16:39:47:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: broken link in heinz nunn match page. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 16:28:19:

The link to top position number 12 is broken
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntopp12.htm
Uri

Hello Uri,
corrected, Movei did very well with Nunn position 12 and finished in front of El Chinito.
More to come this evening. A lot of positions are finished or almost finished, but I do not have the time for upload (visitors and AEGT).
Best Regards
Heinz

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 18:10:51:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: broken link in heinz nunn match page. geschrieben von:/posted by: Thomas Mayer at 26 July 2004 16:33:01:

Hi Uri,

The link to top position number 12 is broken
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntopp12.htm

looks like a misspelling. Try this one:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntop12.htm
sometimes common sense helps a bit to guess links...
Greets, Thomas

The link was already corrected but this link is the wrong link and it is about the top2 tournament when the link that I gave was supposed to be link for top3 tournament(top3 not only because it is third tournament but also because there are only 3 top programs when always one of them is winning(Thinker,Elchinito,Greenlight).
The best that other(not thinker elchinito,Greenlight) could do is getting the second place(bringer did it).
Movei is very stable at the 4th place
4 17.5/30
3-4 19/30
4 17/30
4 18.5/30
5 17.5/30
7-9 15.5/30
4 20/30
3-5 18/30
3-4 19/30
5-6 16/30
7 17.5/30
3-4 19.5/30
You can see that in 8 out of 12 positions it was 4th place or shared the 4th place and the gap between best result and worst result is only 4.5 points.
Other programs are more unstable and I cannot find a single program that the difference between best result and worst result is less than 5 points.

Thinker 25/30 in nunn4 16/30 in nunn6 but always more points than movei with no exception.
Elchinito 27/30 in nunn1 and 19/30 in nunn2 and nunn9
Note that I do not see a single tournament when it made less points than movei
and the best that movei could do is share the same place with it in nunn2 and nunn9 and nunn12.
Glc
24/30 in nunn3
14.5/30 in nunn8
Bringer 20/30 in nunn9
11/30 in nunn10
Baron 20/30 nunn5
12/30 in nunn4
11.5/30 in nunn10
Uri

[Heinz van Kempen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 26 July 2004 18:18:53:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: broken link in heinz nunn match page. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 18:10:51:

Hi Uri,

The link to top position number 12 is broken
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntopp12.htm

looks like a misspelling. Try this one:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntop12.htm
sometimes common sense helps a bit to guess links...
Greets, Thomas

The link was already corrected but this link is the wrong link and it is about the top2 tournament when the link that I gave was supposed to be link for top3 tournament(top3 not only because it is third tournament but also because there are only 3 top programs when always one of them is winning(Thinker,Elchinito,Greenlight).
The best that other(not thinker elchinito,Greenlight) could do is getting the second place(bringer did it).
Movei is very stable at the 4th place
4 17.5/30
3-4 19/30
4 17/30
4 18.5/30
5 17.5/30
7-9 15.5/30
4 20/30
3-5 18/30
3-4 19/30
5-6 16/30
7 17.5/30
3-4 19.5/30
You can see that in 8 out of 12 positions it was 4th place or shared the 4th place and the gap between best result and worst result is only 4.5 points.
Other programs are more unstable and I cannot find a single program that the difference between best result and worst result is less than 5 points.

Thinker 25/30 in nunn4 16/30 in nunn6 but always more points than movei with no exception.
Elchinito 27/30 in nunn1 and 19/30 in nunn2 and nunn9
Note that I do not see a single tournament when it made less points than movei
and the best that movei could do is share the same place with it in nunn2 and nunn9 and nunn12.
Glc
24/30 in nunn3
14.5/30 in nunn8
Bringer 20/30 in nunn9
11/30 in nunn10
Baron 20/30 nunn5
12/30 in nunn4
11.5/30 in nunn10
Uri

Hello Uri,
interesting statistics. You can continue them as I will upload positions 14-18 until Wednesday. Pos. 13 I just uploaded.
Next to come one more from Elite 2.
Best Regards
Heinz

[Heinz van Kempen]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Heinz van Kempen at 26 July 2004 18:56:08:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: broken link in heinz nunn match page. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 26 July 2004 18:10:51:


Hello Uri,
independent of what you or others might think and due to fast improvements in some engines, I have fixed the following for my tournaments (this is only in my mind, nothing like a rule).

Top Tournament = where almost all participants are above 2450 in my list. I already wrote in a former post that this Top 3 is somehow constructed, because I wanted to have the new versions of Thinker and GLC in for first games (they got more by gauntlet with Jonny already, interesting your results for Movei vs. Jonny with different time controls, I just suspected that). Of course Nunn Top 1 and 2 were by far stronger, but the other updated and partly terrific improved engines like WildCat, Delfi, Gothmog I already sqeezed shortly before in Elite 2.
Elite Tournament = where almost all participants are rated above 2600 according to my list. Elite 2 will be the last one probably with a lot of commercial engines. I only wanted to have them in once and for all to see differences and to see also which are worth their money or not (what of course is also not easy to say, there are guys like me who buy practically all). On the other hand the "weaker" commercial ones are also cheaper.
And the last as this is partly off topic. My ratings are higher than those in most lists, because they are based on Blitz and the Blitz performance for Shredder on fast hardware would in reality not be only slightly below 2900 like in my list, but 3000 or 3200 compared to human GM.
Best Regards
Heinz