Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 30 March 2000 01:24:05:
Crafty had several disadvantages, starting as black and no pondering {which Dr. Hyatt does not like}. But in this very long time control game, Amy showed some real muscle. Crafty typically excells at these long time control events, even (not infrequently) pounding the commercial programs. I have heard nothing but shouts of praise from all the Amy testers. Looks like the real deal.
Congrats to Thorsten Greiner for a real neat program on the rise.
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DCORBIT"]
[Date "2000.03.29"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Amy"]
[Black "Crafty"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C92"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez"]
[Variation "closed, Flohr-Zaitsev system (Lenzerheide variation)"]
[TimeControl "40/14400"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8.
c3 d6 9. h3 Bb7 10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. a4 h6 13. Bc2 exd4 14. cxd4 Nb4
15. Bb1 c5 16. d5 Nd7 17. Ra3 f5 18. exf5 Nf6 19. Rae3 Qd7 20. axb5 axb5
21. Ne4 Nfxd5 22. Ra3 Qxf5 23. Rxa8 Rxa8 24. Nxc5 Qxb1 25. Nxb7 Qf5 26. Qb3
Qd3 27. Qxd3 Nxd3 28. Rd1 N5b4 29. Ne1 Nxe1 30. Rxe1 Kf7 31. Be3 Be7 32.
Re2 Ra2 33. Kh2 Nd5 34. Bd4 b4 35. Re4 g5 36. g3 Nc7 37. Bb6 d5 38. Re2 Ne6
39. Na5 Bf6 40. Rd2 Bc3 41. Rxd5 Rxb2 42. Kg2 h5 43. Nc4 Rc2 44. Rb5 Kg6
45. Be3 h4 46. Rb6 Kf6 47. Kf3 Ke7 48. Nd6 Ra2 49. Ne4 Kd7 50. Rd6+ Ke7 51.
Kg4 b3 52. Rd3 hxg3 53. Nxc3 gxf2 54. Rd1 Rc2 55. Ne4 Nf4 56. Nxf2 Nxh3 57.
Nxh3 Ke8 58. Nxg5 Rc3 59. Kf4 b2 60. Rb1 Rb3 61. Bd4 Kd7 62. Rxb2 Ra3 63.
Ke4 Ra5 64. Nf7 Rh5 65. Ne5+ Kd6 66. Rb6+ Kc7 67. Kd5 Rh4 68. Ra6 Rh5 69.
Ra7+ Kb8 70. Rg7 Rf5 71. Bb6 Rh5 72. Kc6 Rh8 73. Bc5 Kc8 74. Rc7+ Kd8 75.
Be7+ Ke8 { Black resigns } 1-0


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[paul bedrey]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: paul bedrey at 30 March 2000 02:27:27:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 30 March 2000 01:24:05:

Crafty had several disadvantages, starting as black and no pondering {which Dr. Hyatt does not like}. But in this very long time control game, Amy showed some real muscle. Crafty typically excells at these long time control events, even (not infrequently) pounding the commercial programs. I have heard nothing but shouts of praise from all the Amy testers. Looks like the real deal.
Congrats to Thorsten Greiner for a real neat program on the rise.

AND thank you Dan for compiling it for Winboard. I haven't tried version 7 yet but I have tested(and continue to) version 6 and found it to be quite strong. So far, against SOS and Anmon 5.06 Amy has come close to 50%. At 40m/120m Sos leads 4-3 and at 90s a move Sos won a 20 game match by the close score 10-8 2draws. As of this writing Anmon leads 6-4 in 90s a move! All games without ponder on a Pentium 400. I intended to also play Amy against Phanlax and
Tcb or Gromit 3 but now I think I'll start over again. Thanks again to you and
Thank you and congratulations to Thorsten for a fine program.

Paul

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 30 March 2000 02:36:54:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 30 March 2000 01:24:05:

Crafty had several disadvantages, starting as black and no pondering {which Dr. Hyatt does not like}. But in this very long time control game, Amy showed some real muscle. Crafty typically excells at these long time control events, even (not infrequently) pounding the commercial programs. I have heard nothing but shouts of praise from all the Amy testers. Looks like the real deal.

Thank you (and Thorsten) for repairing ponder under WinBoard. It's a great experience to be badly mauled with ponder on ). Are bad chess players generally masochists? I think I am.
Best wishes...
Mogens

MCL

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 30 March 2000 03:00:05:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 30 March 2000 02:36:54:

Crafty had several disadvantages, starting as black and no pondering {which Dr. Hyatt does not like}. But in this very long time control game, Amy showed some real muscle. Crafty typically excells at these long time control events, even (not infrequently) pounding the commercial programs. I have heard nothing but shouts of praise from all the Amy testers. Looks like the real deal.

Thank you (and Thorsten) for repairing ponder under WinBoard. It's a great experience to be badly mauled with ponder on ). Are bad chess players generally masochists? I think I am.

I agree. Why settle for abject humiliation, when we can have a heart-rendering, spirit-crushing, good, old-fashioned, butt-whuppin' at the hands of a lifeless hunk of tin.



My FTP site

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 30 March 2000 08:44:18:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 30 March 2000 01:24:05:
I still have problems with Amy. Ponder works well now, but ...
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "VPittlik"]
[Date "2000.03.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "amy07_4"]
[Black "Crafty1710_corbit"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "120"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 c6 8.
Bc3 d5 9. Ne5 Nfd7 10. Nxd7 Nxd7 11. Nd2 O-O 12. O-O Rc8 13. e4 b5 14. Re1
bxc4 15. bxc4 dxc4 16. Qa4 Bb5 17. Qxa7 Ra8 18. Qb7 Rb8 19. Qa7 Qc8 20. a4
Ba6 21. Ba5 Bd8 22. Bxd8 Rxd8 23. d5 c3 24. Nb1 c2 25. Nc3 cxd5 26. exd5
Nc5 27. dxe6 fxe6 28. Qe7 Nb3 29. Bh3 Qxc3 30. Bxe6+ Kh8 31. Bxb3 Qxb3 32.
Qa7 Bb7 33. Qe3 Qxe3 34. fxe3 Rd2 35. e4 Bxe4 36. Rxe4 Rd1+ 37. Re1 Rxa1
38. Rxa1 Rb1+ 39. Rxb1 cxb1=Q+ 40. Kf2 Qa2+ 41. Kg1 Qxa4 42. Kg2 Qc2+ 43.
Kg1 Qe2 44. g4 Qxg4+ 45. Kf2 Qf4+ 46. Kg2 Qxh2+
*

118250 _second: Hint: Kg2
118547 _first : White(46): Kg2
118563 _first : move f2g2
118563 _second: time 6899
otim 5298
118563 _second: f2g2
118766 _first : Black(46): Qe5 (in Permanent Brain)
119594 _first : 8 -1166 101 231394 47. Kh1 Qg5 48. h3 Qg3 49. h4 Qxh4+ 50. Kg1 h5 51. Kf1
119625 _first : 8 -1166 101 238000 47. Kh1 Qg5 48. h3 Qg3 49. h4 Qxh4+ 50. Kg1 h5 51. Kf1
119672 _second: 7 32726 161 285607 46. ... Qxh2+ 47. Kf3 Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kf5 Qe4+ 50. Kxe4 _HT_
119813 _second: move f4h2
Interrupting first
119813 _first : time 5298
otim 6795
119813 _first : f4h2
120032 _second: Hint: Kf3
120032 _second: 6 32728 0 1 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kf5 Qe4+ 50. Kxe4 _HT_
120032 _second: 6 32728 0 24 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kf5 Qe4+ 50. Kxe4 _HT_
120360 _second: 7 32730 53 149289 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kxe3 _HT_
121094 _second: 7 32730 128 338755 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kxe3 _HT_
122469 _second: 8 32730 264 649414 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kxe3 _HT_
123860 _second: 8 32730 402 1066914 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kf4 Qe3+ 49. Kxe3 _HT_
127125 _second: 9 32732 731 1856727 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kxe2 _HT_
131938 _second: 9 32732 1213 3421810 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kxe2 _HT_
131969 _second: 10 32732 1216 3432588 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kxe2 _HT_
Fatal Error: Error: first chess program (amy07_4) exited unexpectedly
138485 _second: 10 32732 1866 5693863 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kxe2 _HT_
138500 _second: 11 32732 1867 5700452 47. ... Qe2+ 48. Kxe2 _HT_
Interrupting first
140235 _first : force
Fatal Error: Error writing to first chess program:
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[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "VPittlik"]
[Date "2000.03.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "amy07_4"]
[Black "Crafty1710_corbit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "180"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 c6 8.
Bc3 d5 9. Ne5 Nfd7 10. Nxd7 Nxd7 11. Nd2 O-O 12. O-O Rc8 13. e4 b5 14. Re1
bxc4 15. bxc4 dxc4 16. Qa4 Bb5 17. Qxa7 Ra8 18. Qb7 Nb6 19. e5 Na4 20. Ne4
f5 21. exf6 Bxf6 22. Bh3 Nxc3 23. Nxc3 Bxd4 24. Nxb5 cxb5 25. Bxe6+ Kh8 26.
Rad1 Rxa2 27. Qe4 Rfxf2 28. Qxd4 Rg2+ 29. Kh1 Rxh2+ 30. Kg1 Rag2+ 31. Kf1
Qf8+ 32. Qf4 Rf2+ 33. Kg1 Rhg2+ 34. Kh1 Rxf4 35. Kxg2 Rf2+ 36. Kh3 g6 37.
Rd5 c3 38. Rxb5 c2 39. Rbe5 Qh6+ 40. Kg4 c1=Q 41. Rxc1 Qxc1
{Black wins on time} 0-1
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "VPittlik"]
[Date "2000.03.30"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Crafty1710_corbit"]
[Black "amy07_4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "180"]
1. e4
{White wins on time} 1-0
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "VPittlik"]
[Date "2000.03.30"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Crafty1710_corbit"]
[Black "amy07_4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "180"]
1. e4
{White wins on time} 1-0
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "VPittlik"]
[Date "2000.03.30"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Crafty1710_corbit"]
[Black "amy07_4"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "180"]
1. e4
{White wins on time} 1-0
all games played on a dualboard
Volker

[Djordje Vidanovic]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Djordje Vidanovic at 30 March 2000 16:23:27:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 30 March 2000 03:00:05:

Crafty had several disadvantages, starting as black and no pondering {which Dr. Hyatt does not like}. But in this very long time control game, Amy showed some real muscle. Crafty typically excells at these long time control events, even (not infrequently) pounding the commercial programs. I have heard nothing but shouts of praise from all the Amy testers. Looks like the real deal.

Thank you (and Thorsten) for repairing ponder under WinBoard. It's a great experience to be badly mauled with ponder on ). Are bad chess players generally masochists? I think I am.

I agree. Why settle for abject humiliation, when we can have a heart-rendering, spirit-crushing, good, old-fashioned, butt-whuppin' at the hands of a lifeless hunk of tin.

Dann,
Reading your exquisite, poetic and exuberant definition of humiliation at the hands of a computer chess monster, I cannot but keep sipping my gin that is the quintessence of an exceptionally well-mannered martini and occasionally shift to a happy vodka, which may burst into song on its way down... It helps, it helps... who cares now about being 9-1 down against this stupid cyborg? ))
Poetically yours,
Djordje

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 30 March 2000 17:29:32:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems) geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 30 March 2000 08:44:18:
Hey Volker,
What additional options did you use under WinBoard? It might be possible to duplicate the errors on one computer.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 31 March 2000 09:00:09:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems) geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 30 March 2000 17:29:32:

Hey Volker,
What additional options did you use under WinBoard? It might be possible to duplicate the errors on one computer.
Best wishes...
Mogens

/debug /mg 6
nothing very special...
Volker

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 31 March 2000 09:58:51:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems) geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 31 March 2000 09:00:09:

Hey Volker,
What additional options did you use under WinBoard? It might be possible to duplicate the errors on one computer.
Best wishes...
Mogens

/debug /mg 6
nothing very special...
Volker

No, I see that. Was hoping for /-reuse or something like that. Have you been able to duplicate it?
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Dann Corbit]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Dann Corbit at 31 March 2000 10:43:15:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems) geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 31 March 2000 09:58:51:

Hey Volker,
What additional options did you use under WinBoard? It might be possible to duplicate the errors on one computer.
Best wishes...
Mogens

/debug /mg 6
nothing very special...
Volker

No, I see that. Was hoping for /-reuse or something like that. Have you been able to duplicate it?

I just ran several times performing fast games with that setting.
What was the other program?
What were the other paramters used for both programs?


My FTP site

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 31 March 2000 21:19:20:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems) geschrieben von: / posted by: Dann Corbit at 31 March 2000 10:43:15:

Hey Volker,
What additional options did you use under WinBoard? It might be possible to duplicate the errors on one computer.
Best wishes...
Mogens

/debug /mg 6
nothing very special...
Volker

No, I see that. Was hoping for /-reuse or something like that. Have you been able to duplicate it?

I just ran several times performing fast games with that setting.
What was the other program?
What were the other paramters used for both programs?

Crafty.
All problems was caused by the brain damaged operator! I suspect it was me .
I set cpu=2 in .amyrc. I am running a dualboard and I have tested SMP (which works fine) before and I have forgotten to change it. After I changed this to cpu=1 the problem did not occur anymore.
BTW: /reuse is the default! To switch reuse off you have to use /reuseFirst=false /reuseSecond=false. The information in Frank's detail page is *wrong* (see Winbord helpfile)!
I beg your pardon
Volker

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 01 April 2000 00:23:53:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems were caused by an stupid operator)) geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 31 March 2000 21:19:20:

All problems was caused by the brain damaged operator! I suspect it was me .
I set cpu=2 in .amyrc. I am running a dualboard and I have tested SMP (which works fine) before and I have forgotten to change it. After I changed this to cpu=1 the problem did not occur anymore.
BTW: /reuse is the default! To switch reuse off you have to use /reuseFirst=false /reuseSecond=false. The information in Frank's detail page is *wrong* (see Winbord helpfile)!

Why do Francesca need these options then? Francesca won't work with just /mg.
Best wishes...
Mogens

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 01 April 2000 10:16:18:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: Amy 0.7 flexes here muscles (problems were caused by an stupid operator)) geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 01 April 2000 00:23:53:
Hi Mogens!

Why do Francesca need these options then? Francesca won't work with just /mg.

True, but it won't work with /reuse also!
Lets's test this!
Test system: dualboard, ponder allways on.
Winbord helpfile:
"/reuse or /xreuse, or /reuseFirst true|false /reuse2 or /xreuse2, or /reuseSecond true|false
If this option is True (the default), WinBoard uses the same chess engine process repeatedly when playing multiple games. If the option is False, WinBoard kills off the chess engine after every game and starts a fresh one for the next game. Starting a fresh chess engine can be slow, so it is not recommended. However, some chess engines may not work properly when reused, such as versions of Crafty earlier than 12.0."
-----------------------------------------------------------
d:\winboard\francesca
10.03.00 06:51 _DIR_ .
10.03.00 06:51 _DIR_ ..
10.03.00 06:51 100.231 franwb.zip
09.03.00 20:08 1.880 README.TXT
06.03.00 20:17 171.008 FRANWB.EXE
06.02.00 11:39 193.659 BOOK.W
06.02.00 11:39 191.510 BOOK.B
01.04.00 09:22 636 Fran_reuse.txt
8 Datei(en) 658.924 Bytes
222.789.632 Bytes frei
-----------------------------------------------------------
WB-ini:
\"Franwb\" /fd=d:\\Winboard\\francesca
\"Franwb\" /sd=d:\\Winboard\\francesca
-----------------------------------------------------------
Test1
Additional options:
/debug /movesPerSession=40 /tc 1 /inc -1 /mg 2 /reuse=false /reuse2=false
Result:
Dr. Watson for Windows NT. Winboard crashes (access violation)!
I absolutely do not understand this. No output in winboard.debug.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Test2
Additional options:
/debug /movesPerSession=40 /tc 1 /inc -1 /mg 2 /reuseFirst=false /reuseSecond=false
Result:
It seems that Francesca does not recognize neither draw by repetition nor
by 50-moves rule.
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "Vpittlik"]
[Date "2000.04.01"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Franwb"]
[Black "Franwb"]
[Result "*"]
[TimeControl "40/60"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Bc5 5. O-O Nf6 6. e5 Ng4 7. Bg5 Be7
8. Bxe7 Qxe7 9. Na3 Ngxe5 10. Nxd4 O-O 11. Nxc6 dxc6 12. Re1 Qf6 13. c3 Be6
14. Bxe6 fxe6 15. Qe2 Rad8 16. Qxe5 Qxf2+ 17. Kh1 Rd2 18. Rg1 Qe2 19. Qxc7
Rxb2 20. Rad1 Rxa2 21. Rd7 Qg4 22. h3 Qg6 23. Nc4 b5 24. Ne5 Qf6 25. Nxc6
a6 26. Qd6 Rf2 27. Ne7+ Kh8 28. Qxa6 Rxg2 29. Kxg2 Qf2+ 30. Kh1 Qf3+ 31.
Rg2 Qf1+ 32. Kh2 Qf4+ 33. Rg3 Qf2+ 34. Rg2 Qf4+ 35. Rg3 Qf2+ 36. Rg2 Qf4+
37. Rg3 Qf2+ 38. Rg2 Qf4+ 39. Rg3 Qf2+ 40. Rg2 Qf4+ 41. Rg3 Qf2+ 42. Rg2
Qf4+ 43. Rg3 Qf2+ 44. Rg2 Qf4+ 45. Rg3 Qf2+ 46. Rg2 Qf4+ 47. Rg3 Qf2+ 48.
Rg2 Qf4+ 49. Rg3 Qf2+ 50. Rg2 Qf4+ 51. Rg3 Qf2+ 52. Rg2 Qf4+ 53. Rg3 Qf2+
54. Rg2 Qf4+ 55. Rg3 Qf2+ 56. Rg2 Qf4+ 57. Rg3 Qf2+ 58. Rg2 Qf4+ 59. Rg3
Qf2+ 60. Rg2 Qf4+ 61. Rg3 Qf2+ 62. Rg2 Qf4+ 63. Rg3 Qf2+ 64. Rg2 Qf4+ 65.
Rg3 Qf2+ 66. Rg2 Qf4+ 67. Rg3 Qf2+ 68. Rg2 Qf4+ 69. Rg3 Qf2+ 70. Rg2 Qf4+
71. Rg3 Qf2+ 72. Rg2 Qf4+ 73. Rg3 Qf2+ 74. Rg2 Qf4+ 75. Rg3 Qf2+ 76. Rg2
Qf4+ 77. Rg3 Qf2+ 78. Rg2 Qf4+ 79. Rg3 Qf2+ 80. Rg2 Qf4+ 81. Rg3 Qf2+ 82.
Rg2 Qf4+ 83. Rg3 Qf2+ 84. Rg2 Qf4+ 85. Rg3 Qf2+ 86. Rg2 Qf4+ 87. Rg3 Qf2+
88. Rg2 Qf4+ 89. Rg3 Qf2+ 90. Rg2 Qf4+ 91. Rg3 Qf2+ 92. Rg2 Qf4+ 93. Rg3
Qf2+ 94. Rg2 Qf4+ 95. Rg3 Qf2+ 96. Rg2 Qf4+ 97. Rg3 Qf2+ 98. Rg2 Qf4+ 99.
Rg3 Qf2+ 100. Rg2 Qf4+ 101. Rg3 Qf2+ 102. Rg2 Qf4+ 103. Rg3 Qf2+ 104. Rg2
Qf4+ 105. Rg3 Qf2+ 106. Rg2 Qf4+ 107. Rg3 Qf2+ 108. Rg2 Qf4+ 109. Rg3 Qf2+
110. Rg2 Qf4+ 111. Rg3 Qf2+ 112. Rg2 Qf4+ 113. Rg3 Qf2+ 114. Rg2 Qf4+ 115.
Rg3 Qf2+ 116. Rg2 Qf4+ 117. Rg3 Qf2+ 118. Rg2 Qf4+ 119. Rg3 Qf2+ 120. Rg2
Qf4+ 121. Rg3 Qf2+ 122. Rg2 Qf4+ 123. Rg3 Qf2+ 124. Rg2 Qf4+ 125. Rg3 Qf2+
126. Rg2 Qf4+ 127. Rg3 Qf2+ 128. Rg2 Qf4+ 129. Rg3 Qf2+ 130. Rg2 Qf4+ 131.
Rg3 Qf2+ 132. Rg2 Qf4+ 133. Rg3 Qf2+ 134. Rg2 Qf4+ 135. Rg3 Qf2+ 136. Rg2
Qf4+ 137. Rg3 Qf2+ 138. Rg2 Qf4+ 139. Rg3 Qf2+ 140. Rg2 Qf4+ 141. Rg3 Qf2+
142. Rg2
*
I stopped this nonsense manually.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Test3
WB-ini:
\"Crafty1710_corbit\" /fd=d:\\Winboard\\crafty
\"Franwb\" /sd=d:\\Winboard\\francesca
Additional options:
/debug /movesPerSession=40 /tc 1 /inc -1 /mg 2 /reuseSecond=false
Result:
The two games were played properly. Selected lines from wb.debug:

Interrupting second
84750 _second: time 2690
otim 856
84750 _second: d8e8
84875 _first : 1-0 {White mates}
84875 _first : result 1-0 {White mates}
Interrupting second
84875 _second: result 1-0 {White mates}
84875 _first : force
84875 _second: quit
84875 _first : time control reached
94890 _first : new
random
94890 _first : level 40 1 0
94890 _first : post
94890 _first : hard
94890 _first : force
StartChildProcess (dir="d:\Winboard\francesca") Franwb
94890 _second: xboard
94890 _second: new
random
94890 _second: level 40 1 0
94890 _second: post
94890 _second: hard
94890 _second: force
94890 _first : computer
94890 _second: computer
94890 _second: black
94890 _second: time 6000
otim 6000
94890 _second: white
94890 _second: go
94953 _second: 1. ... e2e4
94953 _first : time 6000
otim 6000
94953 _first : e2e4
94953 _first : black
94953 _first : go
95171 _second:
95171 _second: Please enter your move (or just enter to play ?)
95171 _second: 1 92 0 0 d2d4
95171 _second: 2 29 0 192 g1f3 d7d5
95171 _second: 3 68 0 897 f1c4
95203 _second: 4 50 0 3365 b1c3 g8h6
95281 _second: 5 69 0 10978 b1c3 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 f2f3
95281 _first : tellics set 1 Crafty v17.10 (1 cpus)
95281 _first : kibitz Hello from Crafty v17.10!
95281 _first : 40 moves/1 minutes primary time control
95281 _first : 40 moves/1 minutes secondary time control
95281 _first : pondering enabled.
95375 _second: 6 52 0 15532 b1c3 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 d5e4 c3e4
95578 _second: 7 62 0 42904 b1c3 e7e6 g1f3 d7d5 e4d5 e6d5 f3e5
95703 _first : move e7e5
Interrupting second
95703 _second: time 6000
otim 5978
95703 _second: e7e5
95812 _first : Hint: Nf3
95812 _second: Fran says: Illegal!!
95812 _second: Fran says: Illegal!!
95812 _second: Fran says: Illegal!!
95812 _second: Fran says: Illegal!!
95812 _second: Fran says: Illegal!!
95828 _second: 2. ... g1f3

Can someone please explain me what Francesca is complaining all the time?
The debug is full of thiss "Illegal, illegal" stuff.
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Test4
WB-ini:
\"Crafty1710_corbit\" /fd=d:\\Winboard\\crafty
\"Franwb\" /sd=d:\\Winboard\\francesca
Additional options:
/debug /movesPerSession=40 /tc 1 /inc -1 /mg 2 /reuseSecond
Result: Winboard crashes in the same way as in Test1.
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Test5
WB-ini:
\"Crafty1710_corbit\" /fd=d:\\Winboard\\crafty
\"Franwb\" /sd=d:\\Winboard\\francesca
Additional options:
/debug /movesPerSession=40 /tc 1 /inc -1 /mg 2 /reuse2
Result:
Francesca didn't get it and lost the second game on time.
Selected lines from wb.debug:

228781 _first : 1-0 {White mates}
228781 _first : result 1-0 {White mates}
Interrupting second
228781 _second: result 1-0 {White mates}
228812 _first : force
228812 _second: force
228812 _second: 1 -32000 0 0
228812 _second: resign
228812 _second: Assumed ?
228812 _second:
228812 _second: Please enter your move (or just enter to play ?)
228812 _second: 1 -32000 0 0
228812 _second: 2 -32030 0 0
[snip]...
228828 _second: 48 -33410 0 0
228828 _second: Erk! Max search depth reached...
238828 _first : new
random
238828 _first : level 40 1 0
238828 _first : post
238828 _first : hard
238828 _first : force
238828 _second: new
random
238828 _second: level 40 1 0
238828 _second: post
238828 _second: hard
238828 _second: force
238828 _first : computer
238828 _second: computer
238828 _second: black
238828 _second: time 6000
otim 6000
238828 _second: white
238828 _second: go
239109 _first : tellics set 1 Crafty v17.10 (1 cpus)
239109 _first : kibitz Hello from Crafty v17.10!
239109 _first : 40 moves/1 minutes primary time control
239109 _first : 40 moves/1 minutes secondary time control
239109 _first : pondering enabled.
298843 _first : result 0-1 {Black wins on time}
Interrupting second
298843 _second: result 0-1 {Black wins on time}
298843 _first : force
298843 _second: force
Exiting: Match Crafty1710_corbit vs. Franwb: final score 2-0-0
345046 _first : quit
345046 _second: quit

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Conclusion:
1. /reuse is the default. If you want to switch this off you have
to use "/reuseFirst=false /reuseSecond=false" as in test4.
Otherwise the program will _not_ be refreshed what leads to
errors with some programs as in test5.
2. It seems that Francesca does not recognize neither draw by repetition nor
by 50-moves rule.
3. It seems there is a potential bug in Winboard. Sometimes you have to use
/reuse2 sometimes /reuseSecond (same to /reuse, /reuseFirst) to avoid crashes.
Best wishes
Volker

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 01 April 2000 14:43:10:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: Re: /reuse, bugs geschrieben von: / posted by: Volker Pittlik at 01 April 2000 10:16:18:
Gutentag Volker,
Here are the results of the danish jury.
I tested Francesca-Amy with different options.
a) /debug /mg 2: 1. game ok, 2. no response from Francesca (no surprise).
b) /debug /mg 2 /reuse /reuse2: 1. game ok, 2. game no response from Francesca.
c) /debug /mg 2 /-reuse /-reuse2: 1.game ok, 2. game ok.
d) /debug /mg 2 /reuseFirst true /reuseSecond true: 1. game ok, 2. no response.
e) /debug /mg 2 /reuseFirst false /reuseSecond false: 1. game ok, 2. game ok.
Conclusions:
1. /reuseFirst and /reuseSecond is true by default as stated in documentation.
2. /reuse and /reuse2 should be replaced with /-reuse and /-reuse2 in documentation.
3. Francesca don't work unless engines are reloaded, which means either option c or e.
4. There's a lot of Illegal in debug. Don't seem to matter though.
5. Francesca often writes: Please enter your move (or just enter to play b6d4).
I don't know what that means?
Best wishes...
Mogens
PS: There's even a guestbook now.


MCL

[Mogens Larsen]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Mogens Larsen at 01 April 2000 15:35:00:
Als Antwort auf: / As an answer to: My tests. geschrieben von: / posted by: Mogens Larsen at 01 April 2000 14:43:10:

Gutentag Volker,
Here are the results of the danish jury.
I tested Francesca-Amy with different options.
a) /debug /mg 2: 1. game ok, 2. no response from Francesca (no surprise).
b) /debug /mg 2 /reuse /reuse2: 1. game ok, 2. game no response from Francesca.
c) /debug /mg 2 /-reuse /-reuse2: 1.game ok, 2. game ok.
d) /debug /mg 2 /reuseFirst true /reuseSecond true: 1. game ok, 2. no response.
e) /debug /mg 2 /reuseFirst false /reuseSecond false: 1. game ok, 2. game ok.
Conclusions:
1. /reuseFirst and /reuseSecond is true by default as stated in documentation.
2. /reuse and /reuse2 should be replaced with /-reuse and /-reuse2 in documentation.

This is not true because:
/reuseFirst false is equal to /-reuse and /reuseFirst true is equal to /reuse.
So the /-reuse just isn't mentioned in documentation as far as I know.

Best wishes...
Mogens