a small test for movei 0.8.174 against the top

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 08 March 2004 08:50:42:

hello,
i have run a little tournament for movei vs a strong panel of opponents..
here are the results :

le_defi_de_movei-1
Bures sur Yvette, 2004.03.07
Score 1 2 3 4
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1: movei00_8_174 11.5 / 40 2b- 2w- 2b- 2w-
2: Ktulu 4.2 4.0 / 4 1w+ 1b+ 1w+ 1b+
3: Yace Paderborn 3.5 / 4 1w+ 1b+ 1w+ 1b=
4: The King 3.23 3.5 / 4 1b= 1w+ 1b+ 1w+
5: Fritz 8 3.0 / 4 1w- 1b+ 1w+ 1b+
6: Junior 8 3.0 / 4 1b+ 1w+ 1b= 1w=
7: Crafty 19.06 3.0 / 4 1b+ 1w+ 1b= 1w=
8: Abrok 5.0 2.5 / 4 1b+ 1w- 1b= 1w+
9: Sjeng 12.13 2.5 / 4 1w+ 1b= 1w- 1b+
10: SOS.4 for Arena 2.0 / 4 1b+ 1w- 1b+ 1w-
11: Comet B60 1.5 / 4 1w- 1b+ 1w- 1b=
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40 games: +11 =9 -20
In my new rating list movei8_174 loses nearly 100 points compare to ver 8.112... but the opposition is really stronger ( so i think this rating is underestimated ) , and i should run a more balanced Gauntlet.
Regards
Nicolas


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[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Uri Blass at 08 March 2004 11:48:20:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: a small test for movei 0.8.174 against the top geschrieben von: / posted by: Nicolas Normand at 08 March 2004 08:50:42:

hello,
i have run a little tournament for movei vs a strong panel of opponents..
here are the results :

le_defi_de_movei-1
Bures sur Yvette, 2004.03.07
Score 1 2 3 4
-----------------------------------------------------
1: movei00_8_174 11.5 / 40 2b- 2w- 2b- 2w-
2: Ktulu 4.2 4.0 / 4 1w+ 1b+ 1w+ 1b+
3: Yace Paderborn 3.5 / 4 1w+ 1b+ 1w+ 1b=
4: The King 3.23 3.5 / 4 1b= 1w+ 1b+ 1w+
5: Fritz 8 3.0 / 4 1w- 1b+ 1w+ 1b+
6: Junior 8 3.0 / 4 1b+ 1w+ 1b= 1w=
7: Crafty 19.06 3.0 / 4 1b+ 1w+ 1b= 1w=
8: Abrok 5.0 2.5 / 4 1b+ 1w- 1b= 1w+
9: Sjeng 12.13 2.5 / 4 1w+ 1b= 1w- 1b+
10: SOS.4 for Arena 2.0 / 4 1b+ 1w- 1b+ 1w-
11: Comet B60 1.5 / 4 1w- 1b+ 1w- 1b=
-----------------------------------------------------
40 games: +11 =9 -20
In my new rating list movei8_174 loses nearly 100 points compare to ver 8.112... but the opposition is really stronger ( so i think this rating is underestimated ) , and i should run a more balanced Gauntlet.
Regards
Nicolas

I think that 112 was too lucky in your games and Movei was never
a top program.
I also got some bad results with 112 in lypako's tournament like l;osing
7-1 against betsy.
Uri

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 08 March 2004 12:05:05:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: a small test for movei 0.8.174 against the top geschrieben von: / posted by: Uri Blass at 08 March 2004 11:48:20:

hello,
i have run a little tournament for movei vs a strong panel of opponents..
here are the results :

le_defi_de_movei-1
Bures sur Yvette, 2004.03.07
Score 1 2 3 4
-----------------------------------------------------
1: movei00_8_174 11.5 / 40 2b- 2w- 2b- 2w-
2: Ktulu 4.2 4.0 / 4 1w+ 1b+ 1w+ 1b+
3: Yace Paderborn 3.5 / 4 1w+ 1b+ 1w+ 1b=
4: The King 3.23 3.5 / 4 1b= 1w+ 1b+ 1w+
5: Fritz 8 3.0 / 4 1w- 1b+ 1w+ 1b+
6: Junior 8 3.0 / 4 1b+ 1w+ 1b= 1w=
7: Crafty 19.06 3.0 / 4 1b+ 1w+ 1b= 1w=
8: Abrok 5.0 2.5 / 4 1b+ 1w- 1b= 1w+
9: Sjeng 12.13 2.5 / 4 1w+ 1b= 1w- 1b+
10: SOS.4 for Arena 2.0 / 4 1b+ 1w- 1b+ 1w-
11: Comet B60 1.5 / 4 1w- 1b+ 1w- 1b=
-----------------------------------------------------
40 games: +11 =9 -20
In my new rating list movei8_174 loses nearly 100 points compare to ver 8.112... but the opposition is really stronger ( so i think this rating is underestimated ) , and i should run a more balanced Gauntlet.
Regards
Nicolas

I think that 112 was too lucky in your games and Movei was never
a top program.
I also got some bad results with 112 in lypako's tournament like l;osing
7-1 against betsy.
Uri

hello Uri ,
here is a extract of my rating list :

37 movei 00.8.112 : 2394 85 81 55 59.1 % 2330 27.3 %
.
.
80 movei00_8_174 : 2301 121 88 40 28.7 % 2459 22.5 %

and of the individual data :

(37) movei 00.8.112 : 55 (+ 25,= 15,- 15), 59.1 %
Cilian 4.13 : 2 (+ 1,= 1,- 0), 75.0 %
AnMon 5.21 : 2 (+ 1,= 0,- 1), 50.0 %
Tao 5.4 : 2 (+ 0,= 0,- 2), 0.0 %
Sjeng 12.13 : 4 (+ 2,= 0,- 2), 50.0 %
Francesca mad 0.9 : 2 (+ 1,= 1,- 0), 75.0 %
Green Ligth Chess 3.00 : 1 (+ 0,= 0,- 1), 0.0 %
Abrok 5.0 : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
Horizon 4.1 : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
King Of Kings 2.40 : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
Thinker 4.3d : 12 (+ 6,= 4,- 2), 66.7 %
Kaissa 1.7 : 1 (+ 0,= 1,- 0), 50.0 %
Ruffian 1.0.5 : 8 (+ 1,= 1,- 6), 18.8 %
SOS.4 for Arena : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Bringer 1.9 : 4 (+ 2,= 1,- 1), 62.5 %
Djinn 0.828 : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
Averno 0.67 : 2 (+ 0,= 2,- 0), 50.0 %
Crafty 19.10 SE : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
ColChess 0.8 : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Thinker 4.4k : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Knightx 1.81 : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Gothmog 0.45 : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Betsy 6.51 : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
RDchess 3.23 : 1 (+ 1,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %


(80) movei00_8_174 : 40 (+ 7,= 9,- 24), 28.8 %
Sjeng 12.13 : 4 (+ 1,= 1,- 2), 37.5 %
Yace Paderborn : 4 (+ 0,= 1,- 3), 12.5 %
Comet B60 : 4 (+ 2,= 1,- 1), 62.5 %
Abrok 5.0 : 4 (+ 1,= 1,- 2), 37.5 %
The King 3.23 : 4 (+ 0,= 1,- 3), 12.5 %
Crafty 19.06 : 4 (+ 0,= 2,- 2), 25.0 %
Fritz 8 : 4 (+ 1,= 0,- 3), 25.0 %
Junior 8 : 4 (+ 0,= 2,- 2), 25.0 %
SOS.4 for Arena : 4 (+ 2,= 0,- 2), 50.0 %
Ktulu 4.2 : 4 (+ 0,= 0,- 4), 0.0 %


Too lucky for 55 games ??? As you can see the opponent are not the of the same level... and it is always more difficult to score vs a tremendous opposition.
regards
Nicolas

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Norm Pollock at 08 March 2004 15:05:28:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: a small test for movei 0.8.174 against the top geschrieben von: / posted by: Nicolas Normand at 08 March 2004 12:05:05:

Nicholas,
Did you check in the task manager that movei was using the ram you specified in the ini?

[Nicolas Normand]

Geschrieben von: / Posted by: Nicolas Normand at 09 March 2004 11:29:02:
Als Antwort auf: / In reply to: Re: a small test for movei 0.8.174 against the top geschrieben von: / posted by: Norm Pollock at 08 March 2004 15:05:28:

Nicholas,
Did you check in the task manager that movei was using the ram you specified in the ini?

no but this test was perform using WB2UCI and ChessBase inetrface ?
regards
Nicolas