WBEC Ridderkerk new results.

[Leo Dijksman]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Leo Dijksman at 01 April 2004 17:18:26:

1st Division:
Round 16:
Delfi 4.4 11½1 3.5/4
Kaissa 1.7 00½0 0.5/4
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FrancescaMAD 0.0.9 1110 3.0/4
Pepito 1.59 0001 1.0/4
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Thinker 4.5a 111½ 3.5/4
XiniX 04.02.09 000½ 0.5/4
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Round 17:
Thinker 4.5a - Patzer 3.61 0-1 = 3 games to go!
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2nd Division:
Round 1:
Amy 0.8.7 1½11 3.5/4
Resp 0.19 0½00 0.5/4
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SlowChess 2.89b 1101 3.0/4
Arasan 7.4 0010 1.0/4
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The CrazyBishop 0050 ½011 2.5/4
Betsy 6.51 ½100 1.5/4
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Scidlet 3.6 1100 2.0/4
Cerebro 1.24 0011 2.0/4
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KnightDreamer 3.2 ½111 3.5/4
Chezzz 1.0.3 ½000 0.5/4
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The Baron 1.3.0b3 1½½0 2.0/4
Gothmog 0.4.7 0½½1 2.0/4
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Movei 0.08.178d ½111 3.5/4
Ufim 4.04 ½000 0.5/4
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Terra 3.3b10 10 1.0/2 = 2 games to go!
Phalanx XXII 01 1.0/2
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Amateur 2.80 - Frenzee 155 = not started yet!
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4th Division:
Round 5:
Asterisk 0.4b 101½ 2.5/4
SseChess 2.04.5 010½ 1.5/4
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Round 6:
GreKo 2.71 1001 2.0/4
Alarm 0.93.1 0110 2.0/4
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Djinn 0.849 1111 4.0/4 !!
Armageddon 2.251 0000 0.0/4
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Gerbil 0.2 1010 2.0/4
Asterisk 0.4b 0101 2.0/4
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Crosstables and pgn on the WBEC homepage.
Enginelist, latest updates/new engines:
1/04/2004:
Updated: None found
Leo.


WBEC Ridderkerk homepage.

[Albert Bertilsson]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Albert Bertilsson at 01 April 2004 18:44:59:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 01 April 2004 17:18:26:

Hmm... Sharper is not doing to well. 1/3 into the tournament and almost last. I've been lazy for too long, there is no excuse for me not to get back to chess buisness and start improving the engine.
Always perform poor in WBEC, probably because of the long time controls. Hmm I have to learn from that and see what I can do to improve it. Guess it's an evaluation thing
I hope Sharper can manage to stay in 4th.
/Albert

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 01 April 2004 18:49:41:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Albert Bertilsson at 01 April 2004 18:44:59:

Hmm... Sharper is not doing to well. 1/3 into the tournament and almost last. I've been lazy for too long, there is no excuse for me not to get back to chess buisness and start improving the engine.
Always perform poor in WBEC, probably because of the long time controls. Hmm I have to learn from that and see what I can do to improve it. Guess it's an evaluation thing

I guess that at long time control search is more important(at least in the level of the 4th division).
Gerbil has almost no evaluation so if Sharper performs better relative to Gerbil at short time control then it is clear that the problem is in the search.
Uri

[Benny Antonsson]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Benny Antonsson at 01 April 2004 18:50:32:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Albert Bertilsson at 01 April 2004 18:44:59:

Hmm... Sharper is not doing to well. 1/3 into the tournament and almost last. I've been lazy for too long, there is no excuse for me not to get back to chess buisness and start improving the engine.
Always perform poor in WBEC, probably because of the long time controls. Hmm I have to learn from that and see what I can do to improve it. Guess it's an evaluation thing
I hope Sharper can manage to stay in 4th.
/Albert

You'll manage to stay because Sharper has only faced "strong" engines so far.

[Roger Brown]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Roger Brown at 01 April 2004 19:15:45:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Leo Dijksman at 01 April 2004 17:18:26:

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Thinker 4.5a 111½ 3.5/4
XiniX 04.02.09 000½ 0.5/4
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Thinker is opening up that all important gap between itself and the other programs. Dann had this engine pegged as something special.

It appears he was correct.

Later.

[Marcus Prewarski]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Marcus Prewarski at 01 April 2004 19:43:23:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Uri Blass at 01 April 2004 18:49:41:

Hmm... Sharper is not doing to well. 1/3 into the tournament and almost last. I've been lazy for too long, there is no excuse for me not to get back to chess buisness and start improving the engine.
Always perform poor in WBEC, probably because of the long time controls. Hmm I have to learn from that and see what I can do to improve it. Guess it's an evaluation thing

I guess that at long time control search is more important(at least in the level of the 4th division).
Gerbil has almost no evaluation so if Sharper performs better relative to Gerbil at short time control then it is clear that the problem is in the search.
Uri

I'm sure you are right. The problem with longer time controls is it is so hard to test them. When I'm running test games with my engine longer means 4 min + 2sec inc, instead of the typical 3/1.
-Marcus

[Uri Blass]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Uri Blass at 01 April 2004 19:56:28:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Marcus Prewarski at 01 April 2004 19:43:23:

Hmm... Sharper is not doing to well. 1/3 into the tournament and almost last. I've been lazy for too long, there is no excuse for me not to get back to chess buisness and start improving the engine.
Always perform poor in WBEC, probably because of the long time controls. Hmm I have to learn from that and see what I can do to improve it. Guess it's an evaluation thing

I guess that at long time control search is more important(at least in the level of the 4th division).
Gerbil has almost no evaluation so if Sharper performs better relative to Gerbil at short time control then it is clear that the problem is in the search.
Uri

I'm sure you are right. The problem with longer time controls is it is so hard to test them. When I'm running test games with my engine longer means 4 min + 2sec inc, instead of the typical 3/1.
-Marcus

You can at least see if you can get exponential improvement from test suite.
If you have some improvement that help you to solve easy problems 1.1 times faster and hard problems twice faster then you probably make important improvement for long time control.
Uri

[Albert Bertilsson]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Albert Bertilsson at 01 April 2004 21:20:28:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: Re: WBEC Ridderkerk new results. geschrieben von:/posted by: Benny Antonsson at 01 April 2004 18:50:32:

Hmm... Sharper is not doing to well. 1/3 into the tournament and almost last. I've been lazy for too long, there is no excuse for me not to get back to chess buisness and start improving the engine.
Always perform poor in WBEC, probably because of the long time controls. Hmm I have to learn from that and see what I can do to improve it. Guess it's an evaluation thing
I hope Sharper can manage to stay in 4th.
/Albert

You'll manage to stay because Sharper has only faced "strong" engines so far.

Hmm I hope you are right but the problem is that sometimes engines "look" strong in the beginning of the tournament because they've got some easy point from the weak engines.
Had a look a my source again for the first time in a couple of months. I almost can't believe I actually wrote some of that stuff. Found a couple of things to improve almost directly . Also found a couple of things that I can't remember why I put in there. Got to start using those comments.
/Albert