On Filtering pgn Files

[Norm Pollock]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Norm Pollock at 15 April 2004 17:39:58:

I've noticed that there are a lot of "simulated" games between grandmasters of different generations in pgn files that are available for download. How could Fischer have played Capablanca in the 1990s?
Here is possibly such a game between Alekine (died 1946) and Euwe (died 1981)supposedly played in 1985. Did they play this game at a different date?
[Event "NL Wch"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1985.??.??"]
[Round "29"]
[White "Alekhine, Alexander A"]
[Black "Euwe, Max"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B05c"]
1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 dxe5 7.c5 e4 8.cxb6 exf3 9.Bxf3 Bxf3 10.Qxf3 axb6 11.Qxb7 Nd7 12.Bf4 e5 13.Bxe5 Nxe5 14.dxe5 Bb4+ 15.Nc3 Bxc3+ 16.bxc3 O-O 17.O-O Qe7 18.Rfe1 Qc5 19.Re3 Ra3 20.Qf3 Re8 21.h3 Ra5 22.Rd1 Qe7 23.Qc6 Rc5 24.Qd7 g6 25.f4 Rc4 26.Qxe7 Rxe7 27.Rd4 Rc5 28.Kf2 c6 29.a4 Ra7 30.Rb4 b5 31.axb5 cxb5 32.Kf3 Rac7 33.Rb3 Kf8 34.g4 Ke7 35.f5 gxf5 36.gxf5 f6 37.Kf4 fxe5+ 38.Rxe5+ Rxe5 39.Kxe5 Rc5+ 40.Ke4 Kf6 41.Ra3 Rc4+ 42.Kd3 Rh4 43.Rb3 Kxf5 44.Rxb5+ Ke6 45.c4 Rxh3+ 46.Kd4 Kd6 47.Rb6+ Kc7 48.Rf6 Rh5 49.Kc3 Kb7 50.Kb4 Kc7 1/2-1/2

[Volker Pittlik]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Volker Pittlik at 15 April 2004 19:19:33:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: On Filtering pgn Files geschrieben von:/posted by: Norm Pollock at 15 April 2004 17:39:58:

I've noticed that there are a lot of "simulated" games between grandmasters of different generations in pgn files that are available for download. How could Fischer have played Capablanca in the 1990s?
Here is possibly such a game between Alekine (died 1946) and Euwe (died 1981)supposedly played in 1985. Did they play this game at a different date?

I found this in my database:
[Event "World Championship 16th"]
[Site "NLD"]
[Date "1935.10.03"]
[Round "29"]
[White "Alekhine, Alexander A"]
[Black "Euwe, Max"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B05c"]

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 dxe5 7.c5 e4 8.cxb6 exf3
9.Bxf3 Bxf3 10.Qxf3 axb6 11.Qxb7 Nd7 12.Bf4 e5 13.Bxe5 Nxe5 14.dxe5 Bb4+ 15.Nc3
Bxc3+ 16.bxc3 O-O 17.O-O Qe7 18.Rfe1 Qc5 19.Re3 Ra3 20.Qf3 Re8 21.h3 Ra5 22.Rd1
Qe7 23.Qc6 Rc5 24.Qd7 g6 25.f4 Rc4 26.Qxe7 Rxe7 27.Rd4 Rc5 28.Kf2 c6 29.a4 Ra7
30.Rb4 b5 31.axb5 cxb5 32.Kf3 Rac7 33.Rb3 Kf8 34.g4 Ke7 35.f5 gxf5 36.gxf5 f6
37.Kf4 fxe5+ 38.Rxe5+ Rxe5 39.Kxe5 Rc5+ 40.Ke4 Kf6 41.Ra3 Rc4+ 42.Kd3 Rh4 43.Rb3
Kxf5 44.Rxb5+ Ke6 45.c4 Rxh3+ 46.Kd4 Kd6 47.Rb6+ Kc7 48.Rf6 Rh5 49.Kc3 Kb7
50.Kb4 Kc7 1/2-1/2

Volker



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[Roger Brown]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Roger Brown at 15 April 2004 19:24:04:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: On Filtering pgn Files geschrieben von:/posted by: Norm Pollock at 15 April 2004 17:39:58:

Here is possibly such a game between Alekine (died 1946) and Euwe (died 1981)supposedly played in 1985. Did they play this game at a different date?

Hello Norm,
I am going to suggest that there is an incorrect date somewhere.
Alexander Alekhine met Max Euwe twice over the chess board to play for the title of the world's best player.
On the first occasion, Alekhine, perhaps more than a little guilty of arrogance, showed up in less than match condition. He lost.
On the second occasion Alekhine won back his title from the very sporting Euwe who did not put any obstacles in the way of the re-match. His example would be worthy of emulation today.
Alekhine was to meet Botvinnik but died before that match could take place. There is every indication that Alekhine was excited about the prospect.
I hope this helps.
Later.

[Niyaz Khasanov]

Geschrieben von:/Posted by: Niyaz Khasanov at 17 April 2004 14:26:09:
Als Antwort auf:/In reply to: On Filtering pgn Files geschrieben von:/posted by: Norm Pollock at 15 April 2004 17:39:58:

I've noticed that there are a lot of "simulated" games between grandmasters of different generations in pgn files that are available for download. How could Fischer have played Capablanca in the 1990s?
Here is possibly such a game between Alekine (died 1946) and Euwe (died 1981)supposedly played in 1985. Did they play this game at a different date?
[Event "NL Wch"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1985.??.??"]
[Round "29"]
[White "Alekhine, Alexander A"]
[Black "Euwe, Max"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B05c"]
1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.c4 Nb6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 dxe5 7.c5 e4 8.cxb6 exf3 9.Bxf3 Bxf3 10.Qxf3 axb6 11.Qxb7 Nd7 12.Bf4 e5 13.Bxe5 Nxe5 14.dxe5 Bb4+ 15.Nc3 Bxc3+ 16.bxc3 O-O 17.O-O Qe7 18.Rfe1 Qc5 19.Re3 Ra3 20.Qf3 Re8 21.h3 Ra5 22.Rd1 Qe7 23.Qc6 Rc5 24.Qd7 g6 25.f4 Rc4 26.Qxe7 Rxe7 27.Rd4 Rc5 28.Kf2 c6 29.a4 Ra7 30.Rb4 b5 31.axb5 cxb5 32.Kf3 Rac7 33.Rb3 Kf8 34.g4 Ke7 35.f5 gxf5 36.gxf5 f6 37.Kf4 fxe5+ 38.Rxe5+ Rxe5 39.Kxe5 Rc5+ 40.Ke4 Kf6 41.Ra3 Rc4+ 42.Kd3 Rh4 43.Rb3 Kxf5 44.Rxb5+ Ke6 45.c4 Rxh3+ 46.Kd4 Kd6 47.Rb6+ Kc7 48.Rf6 Rh5 49.Kc3 Kb7 50.Kb4 Kc7 1/2-1/2

It was played 1935.12.12
See here:
http://www.chessaid.com/chess_download/ ... AleEuw.pgn


http://www.chessaid.com/chess_download/ ... AleEuw.pgn